People act like working for a Big 4 is a career requirement, but the burnout stories are wild. Does the prestige carry enough weight to justify the 80-hour weeks, or is it just an old-school mindset?

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It’s not a requirement. Look the A teams at the Big4 are unmatched. Some of the smartest people there are but they are a small minority.

Their B teams and below are not impressive. When I was still in public and had big4 review the tax provisions we prepared for our clients, you wouldn’t believe the dumb questions they’d ask or the things they messed up before we came in there and fixed it.

Granted you’ll still work some rough hours at a smaller firm.

It probably is worth it but you definitely don’t have to work for a big 4 company. It might give you a slight edge in the future but it’s not the be all and end all

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