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All professionals should extend professional courtesies to all professionals...irrespective of gender.
If you hold the door for a lady, why would you let it slam on a guy?
Be an equal opportunity nice person
Well said!
General rules of etiquette that I live by in the workplace...
1. Hold doors for anyone if they’re within 15-20 feet.
2. If I’m closest to the elevator (either getting on or off) I’ll stick my arm out and hold the door for everyone to get on or off.
3. Never comment on anyone’s appearance (unless it’s something easily fixable like food in the teeth).
4. No compliments unless it’s about their work product.
5. Offer to walk a female coworker to her car if it’s late and we’re on friendly enough terms.
6. Handshakes only. Unless it’s a friend that I haven’t seen in a while and it’s understood that a hug is the way to go. Otherwise, nobody wants to be touched and squeezed by a colleague.
7. Finally, interact with EVERYONE as if my mom is watching or will hear what I said/wrote.
So I think it’s basically just keep your hands and thoughts to yourself and treat everyone like you would want your mom/sister/dad/significant other to be treated in the workplace.
Re: luggage. Are you only asking women if they need assistance with their luggage? If so, ask yourself why? Why are you asking women if they need assistance with luggage?
I, as a woman, am quite capable in lifting, moving, and managing my own luggage. If there is nothing obvious that would give you the perception that I would need help (height of loading bin, hands full, broken arm, etc.) why else would you think I couldn’t manage my luggage except because I’m a woman.
Yes there are folks that help everyone- men and women alike. I try to keep that in mind when men offer to help.
Look up formal revolving door etiquette if you’d like some fun
You’re my kind of people
To clarify, by chivalrous gestures I’m referring to:
- opening building / car doors
- helping with luggage
- allowing women to order first
- offering to pull a car around in the rain
etc.
A5, the waitress definitely messed up, but to be fair this is how they train you to do proper table service in higher end places. You start with the women, generally oldest to youngest unless everyone is roughly the same age. Ladies are also supposed to receive menus first and have their food brought out first. Then men, then children.
Where she messed up was probably in entering the order to the kitchen, giving you all the wrong seat numbers on the ticket.
Men should always be chivalrous toward women. Stand up when a woman enters the room, hold a door for her, offer to carry something for her that looks heavy. Women may or may not appreciate it, but that’s how men are raised, and there is no expiration date on courtesy.
M3 - news flash: men and women ARE different. We treat each other differently, and that's a good thing. When you're out on a bachelorette party/girls night there's no way you'd talk/act the same as if it were in mixed company.
K4 is spot on. Raising my girls the same way - if a guy is not chivalrous to them don't waste your time.
Yes...holding doors, giving up seats if need be, walking in the outside of the curb.
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Regarding luggage - I think it’s important to offer help to anyone who looks like they need it. I am a petite 5’2 female who can have trouble getting a bag into the overhead compartment because I am short and recently had shoulder surgery. I appreciate when someone notices that I am struggling and then asks me if I would like help. Sometimes I will decline but sometimes I am beyond grateful for the help! Asking when someone looks like they need help is important in my book.
I am a 5’5” female and have helped other women, an old (very old man) and people holding children to get their luggage into the overhead. Why can’t people just help people?
Everyone stop being so offended by everything.
haven't seen this mentioned, but I always get our first if I can. Women have enough danger from strange men following them that I don't want to be guilty of it seeming that way and causing undue stress if we happen to be going the same way.
I don't expect it, but I appreciate the gesture when it is offered. I can say that I have been annoyed more than once when traveling with a guy in his 20's and he throws his luggage in the trunk and then gets in the car without offering to help me with mine. Maybe its because of my age and it was pretty common to raise boys to have "chivalry" . On the flip side I have helped many people, men or women, who need help with lifting things, etc. I also hold doors open for anyone who is behind me. It's common courtesy. When ladies say they are offended by guys holding doors, letting them off the elevator first, etc, I really don't get it. If you were raised to have chivalry, I say keep doing what your doing. Most women appreciate these kind of things.
I'm gay soooo....just be chivalrous to everyone.
Good call
I don’t really have that expectation at work. It can actually be awkward for a woman if a man at work publicly gives hugs or comments on how you look, even if it’s innocent. I’ve seen this start more than a few rumors, unfortunately.
I’m a men and I tell my compliments to male colleagues; I like your shirt, that suit looks amazing, I like your blazer, it is actually very common.
Yeah, female 🐠 here, since I’ve worked with mostly all males, I now expect the normal chivalrous things mentioned above:
- entering/exiting elevator first (just has become normal)
- appreciate helping with luggage
- walking to car if late
- ordering first
- holding doors
So yes, expect it
98% of the time I do, just saying it’s nice when it happens
All humans deserve courtesy and respect. Hold the door for other people, not just women, give those who got to the elevator first a chance to board first, drive your dude friends to their front door so they don't ruin their new Nike's (once you scuff 'em they're done ya know). But seriously: just be a kind human to all people.
Great advice. Next time I’ll wait for a strong man/woman to help me with my heavy roller. #diewaiting 😂
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I’m equally awkward with both genders and avoid unnecessary, thankless norms.
Treating people with respect is the general rule (after reading all of the above). If you open the door for a woman, great! If she opens the door for you, great! If someone regardless of gender is struggling to do anything, help them. Hope that if someone sees you struggling, they will help you.
I do doors but that’s about it. They’re equals
I held a door open once for a female colleague, she told me she could do it herself...stopped all chivalry now
she sounds like a real blast
F 🐠 here... personally I find it very annoying when people do this... I don’t remember that I am a woman 24/7 especially when I’m working ... so I find it frustrating when men remind me that there is a difference between us... (under the cloak of chivalry) cause as far as I’m concerned There is no the difference ... I understand the physicality of it all... but in the workplace (especially in our profession) there is no need for it.
I mean I hold the door open for people all the time ... that is just common courtesy... but other “chivalry” ... I don’t say anything but I make a mental note to look out for other subtle signs of sexism from that individual so I can play accordingly...
Standing up when I enter the room, opening up my car door, apologizing for swearing in front of me (not necessarily chivalry - but still annoying and separates me from others).
I think chivalry is wonderful, in and out of the office. As long as my male peers are not treating me differently when it comes to my work, I don’t see the problem with having doors held open for me. I appreciate it.
I find it condescending- chivalry is not for the workplace. Treat me like you would a competent male peer.
Def can’t be competent- I am female after all
I appreciate the courteous intention behind it, but agree its usually jarring and alienating in the workplace, esp because I've found that the men that are more pointed about it tend to have more benevolent sexism beliefs (like "we should give her the administrative work because women are just naturally more organized"). So when someone makes a point of exaggerated gender-based courtesy, it both makes me uncomfortable and puts me on defensive alert that I'm going to have an uphill battle against their stereotypes.
Manners are universal though. You can be gracious when pointing out to the guys on the team that you don't want to be treated any differently (and hopefully they listen)