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Because an opaque system creates doubt, suspicion, and envy.
I wish more people were open about salary! I think it would force us in a way to all try and be paid more fairly.
It can cause problems to be too open about it. Takes negotiating leverage away from high-performing employees and limits the company's ability to attract/reward/retain the same. Knowing a range accurately is valuable to everyone-knowing specifically what your individual peers make is unnecessary. People are different in skill, knowledge & competence, and "fair" is highly subjective.
And when one of those high-performing employees spills what they're making, you end-up with half a department "demanding" a 15% raise because Bob/Jane is actually getting compensated for working their ass off.
This aint' a union gig-we can always take our underpaid selves to the agency across the street if our current agency is too cheap.
Creates too many issues to openly talk about this. Every hiring decision is different and then merit increases and promotions play a role. However people forget this and tend to generalize.
Besides ...have you seen all the salary postings in earlier threads ...the anonymity of the 🐠helps with transparency
I don't mean completely open. But why do some people get weirded out and nervous by someone asking?
@Wunderman ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ alright. btw that filter explanation you posted on something else was unclear, didn't work for me on iOS.
Employees should absolutely share with each other. Companies don't want them to because that would give employees more negotiation power. Knowledge is power--and employers would rather own that to stay in better control.
@wunderman 1 I do but since I don't have seem to mind sharing, can't I ask people for why? And since you seem to know, why don't you share those feelings instead of being abrupt?
Mostly it feels impolite to ask other people, and also awkward to bring up in a conversation.
@FCB genuine thanks for the insight
It's funny, my old partner and I were at the same level and got hired in at the same salary. I left for greener pastures. This ended up being a mistake and I had to bounce around a bit, but we have both risen through the ranks and are at the same level (him at the original@company, me at another one). I don't know who makes more. We should talk, but he won't tell me.
People get weirded out about asking because so many of us look at salary as a valuation of self-worth. Jobs became more than just jobs when we began referring to them as "professional lives" instead of occupations. But the same argument can be applied when examining people who openly share their salary; they can be considered pretentious.
@CD1 can you say why leaving for greener pastures was a mistake?
Copywriter, because the next place sucked and then I had to find a new job twice to find stability now, and that process really sucked for me. Meanwhile, my partner thrived and eventually made it to a Sr position within the much better agency.
Boy, you guys are up early on a Saturday:) OP, so pretty much what I said, but in a lot more words from others:) I can also say in my country it's a total taboo to ask about others' salary as financial situation is considered private. Not unlike the U.S. in principle. We also never ever ask who you voted for:) Another no-no:)
Years ago, when I was starting out, another friend who had a couple of years of experience but in investment banking made a comment in passing "I just don't know how anyone can even live with 50K a year" My salary at that time was 37K, more than 10 years ago. I will never forget him saying that! How out of touch I felt he was and how insensitive and cruel it seemed and dismissive to others.
You must know nothing about people, money, egos, perception of self-worth...
It's social media, don't let your feelings get hurt so easily. And, I've already answered your question...
Huh?? Must've been another...
To add to all of the above, there is also a cultural difference as to when it is acceptable and not acceptable to ask about one's salary. Where I'm originally from, somebody you barely know could ask you that, out of sheer curiosity, and it wouldn't be impolite. In English speaking countries it's only shared if you are really close. I even know of couples living together and not knowing how much each of them makes - now that's just weird.
I never used to have an issue sharing until I started realizing I made more than my friends or boyfriends. I don't mind, but I feel like it would bother them knowing that when I wanted to treat sometimes. I like to treat my friends out, but I felt like they thought I saw it differently.