Why is everyone so quick to call me crazy when I suggest unionizing at an accounting firm? My wife employers just went through unionization process and it was a lot faster than people think it can be. It’s also illegal for the firm to target the employees proposing it. Let’s be adults and talk about why everyone thinks it’s out of line because enough is enough with this profession.

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You are a manager so you wouldn’t be one of those that would be organized.

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I’d be a foreman ;)

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If there is even a whiff of unionizing in your firm, I can guarantee you the firm will be shut down immediately. They unionized in Pittsfield, and we all know what happened in Pittsfield. It will cost each of you a fortune in legal fees and union fees and that'll be nothing compared to the cost of losing your jobs. So I would think long and hard before sacrificing your savings and your futures just to send a message.

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Michael! MICHAEL!

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Because it would be a terrible idea. High performers would be paid the same as low performers. If you believe it will lead to higher pay, then partners would make less and incentive to make partner would be lower. How do you plan to convince every single firm to unionize? Because your firm is going to collapse if you are the only one.

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8 years law degree and manager. This is one of the low performers

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Unions are only good for low performers. Any good quality CPA would be crazy to want a union. You will earn less money and have to deal with more red tape.

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I resemble that remark!

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Because you’re crazy

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Yes, you are crazy. Going to law school, graduating from it and whatever else you want to point to has no bearing on whether you are crazy or not. We pay people very well, at all levels; focus on well-being almost to a fault; have an HR group that almost always take the side of the complainant; etc, etc. You clearly are not appreciating how much we are all offered in B4. Have you compared to what your high school or college friends have? How about the vast majority of our client personnel? Do we work hard, yep! But we are well paid for what we do. If you don’t like it here, you can easily lol elsewhere. My personal opinion is that unions are very rarely needed in the US at this point. Decades ago, they were needed. But not now and certainly not in a profession hiring college kids for almost $100k. So yes, I think you are crazy.

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I have NO desire to be part of a union.

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I know it’s also a bit of self selection as well but man business school/corporate life really brain washed some of y’all

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The people who want to make a career out of it (I.e. make partner) will never sell out the firm to benefit their coworkers. As soon as people begin organizing, someone will go cry to a partner or HR thinking they are going to get ahead. As someone who has been through an organization, it gets real ugly, real fast and management will chop heads for any reason to stop them.

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And given the short average tenure in accounting, it makes even less sense as a worker.

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OP. Why don’t you elaborate on why you believe you and the workforce is oppressed or taken advantage of. How much of your salary would you contribute to union dues. How have you considered all of the benefits already provided? At what level do you believe someone becomes “management”? What type of job does your spouse have and how has unionization helped to alleviate the oppression that work force was encountering? Maybe some clarity around the genesis of your idea would help people to understand better and provide you with more useful input.

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India needs labor organizers before it's too late

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God forbid they prioritize their families. I get it can be inconvenient for us, but at least they have their priorities in order

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I don’t think it’s crazy it’s important to protect accountants rights

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Ensue

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A lot of managers sign contracts at PA firms that I believe include language saying they will not
Unionize. I left PA a while ago so I don’t have my agreement to reference but I am fairly certain that was a clause.

It’s actually factually not enforceable even if it existed - which it does not

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I agree with thread

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