A friend getting her MBA part-time is comparing offers: D S&O as an experienced hire Consultant ($120K) or EY PI Strat/Customer as a campus hire Senior Consultant? ($140K + signing bonus)?

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Deloitte S&O anyday. Money will follow dude. S&O has the best reputation and EY has a NON existent strat practice that is brand new and you'll spend most of your time doing pursuits or fake "strat" projects. This is a no brainer.

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Not sure where the zero pipeline is coming from -- that is false. Yes, our strategy/customer group is only a few years old and smaller than S&O so it will be different. That being said, all strategy projects I have been on have been won against PwC, Deloitte, ACN, MBB. We also sell work with Parthenon and those projects are awesome. In the end, if your friend isn't looking to be in consulting long term, I would say come to EY for the money and significantly better culture.

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I think that campus hires are treated better in general, right?

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EY bc $$

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Nah man I ain't insecure. Especially coming from KPMG 😂 J/k j/k

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If it's important to think long term why would you pick D?

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I have worked for both, no one actually stays at D for the long term. There are firms out there that value you more and are actually nice to you

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Dude, please save the whole people are nicer thing. It's all teams and projects and they will nicely kick your ass out if you don't perform. And in what way is EY more sustainable when it has a zero pipeline in strat compared to a mature strategy firm like Deloitte? If you are looking for WORK, go with Deloitte and be among the best. If this discussion was for risk/compliance FSO work then my suggestion would be the complete opposite. But for strat? Lol

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I don't mean to offend anyone here and im@not from either firm: but the only reason people are nicer in EY is because they don't have the same pipeline of alpha male/female talent from top schools like S&O does. It's the bitter truth. A Wharton grad is not going to nicely take your crap about why you couldn't do a pivot table in excel (probably a bad example).

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Deloitte has a much stronger consulting brand, though, which can often mean more interesting work. It's important to think long term and not just focus on initial salary m

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EY is more sustainable and the people are much nicer - I have worked for both. Depends on what you are looking for.

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A1 - at EY, you don't HAVE to do PRD on top of client work, people are generally respectful of your time and time off (read I can actually take a vacation and not be on email and only work wknds rarely) and I find it to be a collaborative culture (vs at Deloitte, I perceived it to be competitive / pointy elbows.). To each their own and my POV only.

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Go to EY.

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Go EY

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AC1- pity your thoughts, I am sure your third tier school did not teach respect and inclusiveness . I would suggest don't even try to apply to EY ever as you would not fit the culture and will be rejected in the first round . By the way, I am an alpha female from an Ivy League and chose to work at ey , it's a freaking amazing firm.

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^ I would say especially for EY though because our high pipeline of risk/compliance work that suckkkkkkssssss

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Sounds like AC1 has some D envy. EY is awesome. People and pay are great. I did there Super day when I was on campus and all 200 recruits were from top 15 b schools.

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D should hire at SC level after MBA...

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EY2, my fiancé is in the strat PI group at EY. As a manager. Been with EY since right out of school. The projects EY is "winning" is based on low margins for second tier strat work. No doubt a phenomenal firm though overall. Depends what your friend wants in life. I have a slightly more competitive mindset lol.

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A1 - there are plenty of people who aren't dicks at top schools. OP - take the better money if it's between two comparable firms like Deloitte and EY

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