After four years of big law in the exec comp/benefits space, is it better to go in house or jump to one of the Big 4? TIA!

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If you can get in the national tax group, big 4. Better wlb, still sufficiently diverse and complex work if that matters to you, and decent pay.

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I can’t speak for every big 4 and don’t know where you are and how they’d value your experience. But you can come in over 225 likely everywhere.

I would think in-house, but those jobs don't come up very often.

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Can I ask why you’d go from biglaw to big4? I’m currently pursuing an LLM in tax and want to go into exec comp/EB, but I’d like to go to biglaw rather than big4 (although I thought it was easier to get to big4 first).

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Big 4 could give you exposure to a wide variety of clients so that when you have a few more years’ experience, you have better insight into where you want to go in-house at and a leg up at actually getting a job there.

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This makes sense and is very helpful. I’m at a midsize firm and am getting an LLM in hopes that I can retool from lit. My firm doesn’t have a super strong tax group, so I’m on the fence on whether I look for other firms, try to go big4, or roll the dice learning tax at my firm (assuming they actually let me change)

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What do you want to do? I'd rather be in house than at big 4 but depends on your goals. Also, harder to land in house with 4 years of experience,I think, but if you find something you probably want to grab it.

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