Anyone ever challenge a "we only give 2-4" performance review culture when you absolutely deserved the 5?

We went from a 1-3 rating to a 1-5 this year and my manager put me down for a 5 based on a year fraught with turmoil that I successfully navigated incredibly well. Skip manager okayed the 5. Head of legal said no. Skip manager is now claiming, "We don't give 5s, ever."

Any ideas of how to handle this?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

You leave. It is a cultural issue, and the wrong kind of culture to be in. If you must do reviews, and you want to keep people, you give as many 5s as possible. Make people feel loved and valued.

like

I’m a company that does that. Does 3 means you meet expectations? At the end of a day a 3-4 will still get you promoted and nobody will ever see these reviews once you’re out. But yes I have personally had issues with this but am able to grudgingly accept it for sake of other benefits.

like

At my old company a 3 was normal and a few got 4s. No one got 5s and if you got below a 3 it meant you were probably being canned soon if not then. The numbers were tied to bonus also if you got a 4 you got a a few % higher. So its a budget thing why they cant gove everyone higher than 3

like

My next email would be: “What is expected to receive a 5 rating, and when I achieve that is the company still going to f*ck me?”

like

funny i’m an IP counsel and my company just went to the same…I wonder if we work together hahah

Related Posts

Reposting this:
Has anyone ever worked in Bytedance/ Amazon (APAC)? How’s the culture like and are the compensation package competitive?

Going through couple interviews with both companies at the moment, unsure which is the better company to work in.

like

How is the work culture in Microsoft database teams?
And what is the expected TC for 8yoe?

like

Hi fishes, I have an offer from DTDL is it good company to work. How is the work culture, hike and perks in the company?

like

Hello,
I would like to know about Siemens Balewadi, Pune (Smart Buildings / Infra account)
How is the work culture, wlb, what are some Pros and Cons?

like

I'm an introverted person, like to keep to myself, focus on work, spend the rest of my time on family, gym etc. I've been told that I need to work on my communication and client relationship building skills. any books I can read? I don't follow pop. culture anymore, no longer actively follow team sports (but sporty myself) as I consider it bread and circus for the masses and don't rly enjoy work drinks... Am I doomed? Personally I am happy and love the work but fear for my career progression.

like

Hi Everyone,

I having below offers in hand. Please guide me for a wise decision in selecting a company

L&T - 10.5 LPA
INTELLECT DESIGN ARENA - 8 LPA
EMPOWER RETIREMENT- 10 LPA
FUJITSU- 11.5 LPA
TEKIZMA - 7 LPA

CTC is not a matter. I need good learning, WLB and good culture.

like

Looking for info about the engineering culture at Netflix from the perspective of someone who identifies as a woman or non-binary person and is also a person of color. Do you feel safe and included? Would also love some input from someone in a leadership position, do you feel supported as a leader?

like

Hello Fishes, Can anyone tell me hows the work culture in Citibank? And what will be the average salary and perks for C11 band? @

Heidrick & Struggles Anyone a Project Administrator at Heidrick & Struggles? What’s the workload/culture like?

like

Hi tribe, how is the WLB in Tiger Analytics? How is the company culture, growth and learning? And is the salary paid on time? Tiger Analytics

like

What is the best product discipline/culture companies in Canada. Does Faang companies have a good culture to grow?

like

Got an offer from Comcast. Can anyone explain work culture, employee perks, variable pay settlement, job security, average hike percentage, learning scope in Comcast

Bhagwan ka dia hua kafi kuch hai, 5.5 saal ka experience hai, 18 LPA ka package hai, 3 saal ka Selenium, TestNG, BDD, Java mei experience hai. Bass kami hai toh ek lambe 35-40-50 LPA ke package ki.

Hence I need help, I will be looking for a switch in the next 2-3 months, but this time I want to make it big. I am ready to work hard, just need guidance from you, as to how to improve myself and gain a good package along with great work culture. Madad kro yar, gareeb ki dua milegi😁 TIA 🙂✌️

likesmart

Anyone here from Amazon? How's the work culture in the Toronto office?

like

Hello friendly Fishes I am in the final stages of a senior lead role ( non tech ) at Wells Fargo. Can you tell me how’s the culture ? Is it too intense ? Weekend work? Slow paced ? I’m coming from Goldman Sachs

like

Anybody working at Designit ? I got an offer from designit, there are less reviews about designit. Would like to know the work culture and other details as it is part of wipro.

like

McKinsey & Company Does anyone have experience working at/with Periscope at McKinsey? What are your feelings on WLB, relationship with rest of McKinsey, culture, etc ? Looking at product management/design roles at the company. Thank you in advance. McKinsey & Company

like

Hi folks, i recentlly joined valuelabs. Not getting good vibes. Why all these internal portals looks ancient 😐 . Is there any buddy program to help assimilate in VL culture?

likehelpful

More Posts

I peed in the ocean twice today at the beach 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

likefunny

Hi all ,
I am looking for a job in
Accenture in HR (operations) , currently working with KPIT Pune
I have 3yrs of experience.
Grateful for any leads , thanks in advance!

like

The top left shows it best

Post Photo
likefunny

Has anyone used or is currently using My Perspectives ELA curriculum from Savvas Learning Company? Our district is considering switching from iReady and I am looking for honest feedback. Thanks!

like

Is the a black market for rewards points? I want to get rid of my delta points for either American or Marriott points

like
like

Please let me know if there is any opening related to digital marketing or social media marketing in your firm. YOE: 7 and Location: Gurugram

like

Is there any way to travel or live internationally while working for the US government? I’m working in finance and accounting. Would love to know how and where.

like

Hi strat friends. Need to do development research on a proposed brand architecture with their target audiences. Can anyone share insights/info on best practices re: designing the approach? Thank you!

likesmart

Hi, How much time it takes to complete bgc and laptop assigned for associate? Recently joined infy, it's been one week.I

Sometimes my anxiety is so intense I can’t clearly articulate my thoughts and I have to laugh it off like I’m tired. But I’m not sleepy.

like

anyone know why this error message happens for linkedin business page?

Post Photo
like

I love when my dog comes up and cuddles/sleeps on me, but she gives off so much heat! Like a little Chernobyl lying on my chest

likefunny

Rajma is bae 😍

Post Photo
likefunny

Am not surprised to see so many positive reviews about this company. I was also a victim to them but am glad I was faster than them I notice there is a catch to thief plan after making me depot almost all I have but am glad reaching Hoskey April a revert expert with his assistance I was able to recover my lost of $13,800 I will not be self centered not to share his contact if you can reach Hoskey mailHos key team@ pro ton .me 

like

What are the chances of Onshore transfer from IQVIA Consulting Services India office to Canada? I also hold a PR to Canada! Will that help I want to apply at IQVIA Canada?

like

Is it true that EY pays no bonus to most practitioners?

like

From a vault ranking perspective, is it safe to assume V100 is all sweatshop big law? Reason I ask is because I want to lateral but not to a gunning big law firm — want to stay in big law but not at the ones at the top of the food chain like I am now. Want some sort of work life balance and wondering if the “lower ranked” big law firms offer this? Could just be my fantasy though…

like

Associate at an AmLaw 100 firm doing patent work. I applied to a part time masters program to try to pivot to a different technical field (still doing patent work, but in something that interests me more than what I’m doing now). Do I try to stick it out at the firm while getting the masters, ask for a reduced hours schedule, or get a part time, non-legal job so I can focus more on the program (one year).

like

Just curious?

How many people have actually built a rigorous Model for clients? In this consulting/analytics consulting settings, do clients actually trust us as a modeling expert?

🤯🤯

Additional Posts in In-House Counsel

Considering taking a position with a small-cap in the US trying to build their legal department. The title is standard “counsel” although the work would be with the senior leadership team and reporting to the GC in Europe. How reasonable is it to ask for a bump in title - Senior counsel or Head of Legal, US? If it matters, I am a 6th year and have been told that I will be expected to hire a junior or paralegal as we build up.

like

About to do my first interview for an in house job (coming from a midsize firm).
What are some questions typically asked, and good answers to those questions?
What are some good questions to ask?

like

A client (in the banking industry) is looking for what they’re calling a software/dev ops attorney to report directly to the GC. Thinking 6th year+. Would need to be based in the south. Can provide more details if you dm me.

like

Big law specialist with an offer to be the CFO and GC of a 250M AUM hedge fund. All in comp would probably be ~$300k, so about $100k less than where I would be in big law (including bonus). Potential to get involved in the business side, but most likely more of a back office role (I would also be the only legal hire - main goal would be cutting outside legal cost and streamlining processes). Does this sound like an attractive offer? What exit options would I have?

like

How long did it take you to find the right position the first time you went in-house? I am 5 months into it and regretting turning down the (lowball) offer I got a couple months ago.

like

How do you find in-house positions?

like

Any downsides to leaving a “Counsel” role and moving into a “Legal Affairs” role? Still practicing and representing the company, just a difference of titles, so core work remains the same - what do you think?

like

For those who work in-house, did you submit a cover letter with your application?

like

Need a recommendation for a contract analytics service provider. Don’t need the lifecycle or repository bells and whistles, just need something I can feed 10k documents and it provides me with data points, preferably individually and in aggregate. Does something like this exist??

like

My company cut staff to 4 days/wk to save funds. I was getting requests from coworkers for docs needed urgently on our day off (fridays). I would oblige them. But then, I learned that those same coworkers had been put back to 5 days because they were deemed “essential“. I felt foolish and decided to stop working on fridays. One EVP (not the GC) in particular has been aggressively texting/calling me on fridays. How Do I tactfully respond? My out-of-office email is not enough of a hint...

like

Anyone ever considered contractor gig in Meta/Facebook or any other big players in tech? I'm full-time in a smaller company and it's pretty stable. Wondering if the move could be worthwhile. Mostly want to explore other areas. Other things to consider: planning for babies in the next 3-5 years; maternity leave in current position is basically what's legally required.

like

Anyone here work fully remote for in house? And in a different state than where the office is located ?

like

I’m entering salary negotiations at a Fortune 500 company and am looking for trustworthy resources for salary data that I can share with the company if they ask where I got my numbers. I know Glassdoor, but what else?

like

Any Amazon counsel or other FAANG attorneys willing to share how their comp review has worked? I’m really happy with my offer(lower base, really high signing bonus and decent RSUs) and was told their would be yearly comp reviews but wondering how that plays out the first few years...

like

For in-house counsel roles, does firm prestige matter? For example, would the fact that an applicant is from Sullivan & Cromwell vs, say, White & Case matter at all, or is it much more about experience/interview? Does it matter as much as law school credentials? Assuming a mid-level corporate associate seeking to go in-house.

like

Have interviews set up at FAANG co and getting good signals, for a position that was posted widely (all across US) but not remote. Haven’t broached the subject of location yet. Would you (1) early on clearly state that you’re not open to relocation but that you would be open to visiting a big office once or twice a month; (2) not say anything now and wait to get an offer and ask for an exemption; or (3) something else?

like

Anyone going to the security/privacy conference in DC this week?

Has anyone heard of TechGC/DeputyGC? Thoughts on membership?

like

When is an appropriate time to send a follow up email after interviewing? Is a week too soon?

like

I have the option to leave Biglaw for in-house position at Fortune 100 for 320k TC with 10 YOE in HCOLC. This is my first in-house role and so I wanted others' thoughts on TC range for my level.

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal