Anyone have any insight into any of the Non-Big 4, private equity/investment management tax service lines? Looking at places like BDO, GT, Crowe, etc (Top 20). My understanding is that all the B4 groups are all equally toxic, so contemplating the switch.

Looking to get any info possible about WLB, types of engagements (e.g. compliance vs consulting), size of clients, compensation, or any other reason why it might make sense to make the switch from B4.

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Pass on GT, it's a sinking ship. 95% of my starting class of seniors have left. I jumped to PwC from GT and ironically my WLB got much better. At GT if you have even two minutes of free time, they will force you to help out on some other office's engagement.

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Yeah it's definitely a problem. Idk what level you are but it's even worse if you're going in as a senior because they have this thing called the Talent Exchange Program where none of the staff are coded to a specific line and can be shared among teams. Which means you'll be fighting with other tax lines for your own staff's hours and they also don't learn jack about your type of engagement from their other clients. And if you ask for staff they give you some rando for 5hrs for 2 weeks who doesnt know anything.

Having worked in 2 big 4 PE/IM tax practices, I don’t see how you can get around the WLB issue in our sector w/o going in house to a PE shop. The tiered structure by nature gets you busy early and keeps you busy all year. Typically rest in the late fall/winter and start over in Jan

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Agreed, but perhaps the clients at the national firms have less complexity and/or work on a lot of consulting, since they don’t have the same potential for independence restrictions on the various transactions that they might work on.

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I'm at RSM and have had an overall good experience in their PE/FS practice. It's still public hours but I've found if you're under the right partner your highs during busy season are 60 as opposed to the 80+ you might get at big 4. Feel free to dm me if you want any more info

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