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EPAM all the way - top tier clients, good work life balance, good benefits, overall awesome experience esp if you want to work in advancing technologies. Probably the best consulting firm you’ve never heard of 👍
I know of an MD from insurance at Deloitte, she was let go and joined EPAM - given that they hired a 0 sales MD I would question why they would recruit sub par talent
M1 and M2, what's the catch? If such a big, fast growing company was so great, why isn't it better known? Why aren't people clamoring to leave mbb, tier 2, big 4 or Acn/IBM for it?
Because it’s not 50 years old. It started in 1993. Check out the growth story and stock growth over the last 3 years….gains gains gains.
EPAM culture is not great on the consulting side - we poached a lot of folks from Deloitte and other big firms and they have all left within a year. Depending on when you joined it might be getting a bit better. On the consulting side our turnover rates are pretty high
I can only tell you about EPAM, benefits are same as or slightly better than Deloitte.
Huh? Switched to EPAM a few years back and the benefits have nothing on Deloitte. The benefits at D are actually one of the few things I miss the MOST. Pay is better at EPAM if you have hot skills they want in consulting. Culture is pretty bad on the consulting side. Engineering side is different- I've heard it's a bit better
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I work with EPAM as a services partner for mutual clients. Therefore take this as a limited view of their capabilities.
Much higher tech affinity + engineering focused on average when compared to big 4. I get the sense they dont work as many hours as big 4. Slightly less polished, more collaborative.
No idea what their pay or turnover looks like. Overall I actually prefer working with them as they are more technical
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I should also say- honestly love working with them. Probably best experience of any services partner.