Are there any ECDs/CDs not divorced or in a struggling relationship? Does career success = personal relationship failure?

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I’m married to an ECD and the relationship has been tumultuous since the beginning. We’ve been ready to call the lawyers at least 4-5 times in 10 years. Probably due to lots of opposite travel, competing careers, long hours, blaming each other for perceived wrongs, swimming in corporate poison/stress, and the inability to comprehend being wrong about anything is what has done us in.

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👋 I think the correlation is the opposite. If you are in a fulfilling relationship, if your partner is a self-sufficient adult who knows you well and likes you, it leaves you a lot of time and energy for your career. I’m a woman.

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You’re not in the LA office of saatchi...

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^You should be commended for your candor, insight and wisdom. And strength

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@SS1, just cause you are married and "crapping out" kids doesn't mean there isn't any stress. Kids adds even more pressure to succeed and also more pressure to be present at home so you are there for your kids. If only one parent works it adds even more pressure to the earner.

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OP, the higher up the ladder you go, you find more people who are more financially independent and less inclined to remain in unsatisfying relationships for years. That’s why the divorce rates are higher, not because CDs and ECDs have worse personal lives compared to senior art directors and copywriters. Make sure you marry someone who likes you for being ambitious and has a career of their own, and you won’t have to choose. I’ve made all my best campaigns and won most of my gold lions after I met my husband. His encouragement and support had a lot to do with that.

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Same as CD1. There is hope.

I agree with CD1, and will add that I think with respect for each other and communication from both ppl about their needs it can definitely work.

ACD1... No I'm not why?

@OP because every CD or higher there is married and crapping out kids.

I don't know... I'm single with no kids.

@ECD1... Is that a personal choice or do you think your career prevented/inhibited you from obtaining a family? I eventually want a family and I also want to be successful, I'm just noticing the higher up the ladder you go I find more people that are divorced or unhappy with their relationships. Is there anyone in this industry happy with both their professional and personal life?

Do people resent the industry for ruining their relationships or do people resent their significant other for the lack of support for their career ambitions? Is it realistic for someone to obtain both a family and a successful career in advertising or is it like Sophie's Choice where you are forced to sacrifice one for the other?

Personal choice the whole way. I've always known I didn't want marriage or kids, and have always been upfront about that with whoever I've dated.

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