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Can a company renege an offer after a bad reference? Will they?

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They should do the reference check before the offer but yes, they can.

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Can they? Absolutely. Even if you’ve filled out sign-on paperwork. In pretty much every state, employment is considered “at will” meaning that, barring discrimination, you or the company can end the working relationship with or without notice (unless you’re contractually obliged etc.) without legal ramifications. References would definitely fall under that spectrum of offers being rescinded if the reference indicates that you’re unqualified for the job. Similar to drug tests, background checks, etc. Now, WILL they? That’s some crystal ball type stuff, and no real way to know if they absolutely will. If they’ve invested a lot of time and energy in the hiring process and need someone right away they may be a little more lenient, but the overall cost and risk of hiring someone that will cause revenue loss or legal issues down the line (such as a failed drug test etc) may cause them to cut their losses and rescind. Don’t assume immediately that they will, but it’s always a real possibility.

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Most companies don't give really detailed references - positive or negative - so I think you are more worried than you should be.

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Depending on where you live, it is illegal for a previous employer to give a negative review. In the Philadelphia area, the only responses that can be given is verifying the dates of employment and the title. I believe they even removed the question around “are they eligible for rehire”.

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They can renege. Whether they will renege depends on the company. It’s always safer to wait until they clear background check and references - and give or confirm a firm start date - to resign from your current job.

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Yes, but in 20 years I've only had to do it once and it was due to extremely poor references (as in 2 out of 3 never heard of the guy and the 3rd fired him) plus he lied about having a degree. If it's just one bad reference or they bring to light something like being fired, the offer typically isn't rescinded unless you're being considered for a high level management position. But it could serve as a warning to your potential new boss and cause them to start out with their guard up.

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It honestly would depend on what was said. But in my experience, someone who offers to provide a reference will usually say positive things. I usually hear negative comments when someone left on less than stellar terms and they put down a reference that didn't really want to be called.

One bad reference—even if it includes solid facts—is one piece of evidence among many, many others that the employer should already have collected and deliberated upon. Most companies I know will withdraw an offer if the new evidence is specific, verifiable, and extraordinarily damning—especially if the offer is for a high-impact senior leadership position.

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The real question is what did you do??

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Who gives bad references? We don’t do them for that reason. I’ve only received a negative reference maybe 1x.

You don’t do references for what reason? Because they’re all good references?

Most companies I've seen will give a verbal offer first, but won't extend written ones until they've run references. And generally, candidates should check with their references first before sending them to potential employers. Unless it's an unusual circumstance, you should only be giving references who you know will say good things about you, or will just verify your employment history and not tank your future job prospects.

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