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I would like to know about the client interviews (especially in data science or machine learning roles).
Are these interviews tough?
Are these interviews meant to assess technical knowledge? For example, what is binomial distribution, what are different data structures in python, ml algorithms etc.
I would request each of the nagarrians to share their thoughts irrespective of the technologies you are working.
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How can they promise promotion? What if you come in and do a bad job?
Also Op sounds like your counselor was not great and there were some maybe legitimate reasons that people thought you were not ready. Also you can get promoted with a 3
Hate to defend the counselor here but the way these promotions work has not that much to do with how the counselor presents you, but the type of feedback that the panel can read in the snapshots. Your counselor might not be great, but promotions are taken seriously. You likely have people who you’ve worked with who don’t support your promotion, but aren’t fessing up to it.
Don’t think so. I have tried. Best you can hope for is an off-cycle raise, but you gotta make a lot of fuss and basically threaten to leave, so not a good look.
This happened to me last year. Didn’t get promoted and switched counselors. New counselor tried to get decision overturned but we were unsuccessful. It can help increase your raise though
D1 that’s the type of sh*t that pisses me off about Deloitte. If Deloitte promises promotion after 1 year they need to stick to it (assuming you held up your end of the bargain). It’s BS.
Op something sounds off. I suspect someone is not telling you all the info. Sounds like someone did not support your promotion
Yes I talked to my counselor. Not a great conversation. I was frustrated and he was defensive. Scatterplot was fine, not great. Had series of calls with counselor leading up to YE. Prepared script with all necessary information, detailed my story and also put together a value prop (we don’t do these anymore for M).
I also immediately changed my counselors, talked to PPD who was supporting me as well as the one I was technically under.
New counselor tried to dig up reasons why I wasn’t promoted (they were BS reasons), and I drafted an even more detailed business case for why I should’ve been promoted and how I got screwed. Took it to the partner who was supporting me and she said next steps would be to take it through a multi-month HR escalation, and may result in an off cycle raise.
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Sounds like OP isn’t telling the full story honestly
OP, here is where I was going. If you have project SM and PPD approval AND service line PPD approval, then even a bad counselor doesn’t stop a promotion. If your project supports you, there are a few reasons that might stop you from making manager: your project ends soon and there is not a place for you to land as a manager, your current project does not have a manager role for you, there is not enough demand for a manager with your skill set in your service line, you have not contributed enough within the service line (sharing tools/methods, proposal work, etc). I suspect you did not have the conversations you needed with the PPDs who were making the decisions. There’s no recourse, but I encourage you to ask your counselor what happened and then have conversations with your project PPD and new offering PPD to align on what you need to demonstrate this year
Op did you talk to your counselor yet? How did your scatterplot look? Did you get a 2 this year as well? What service line?
So what was your rating this year? Sounds like your counselor thought you were not ready plus probably someone they did DD with said you were not ready.
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It’s rare to get promoted with a 3. I had a 1.
You got a 1 and didn’t get promoted?! I’m screwed.
@D1 I get it, I was an experienced hire C who should have been a SC, but I’m glad I came in at the lower level. No promise was made promotion wise. Because of when I came I did SC in 1.5 and trying to do M in 2.
OP, who did you talk to about promotion prior to consensus? Did your project, account, and service line PPD support your promotion (ie did you discuss with them at the beginning of the year and well before consensus)?
Pwc1, what kind of conversation were you trying to have and what is your level? The conversation isn’t about whether you are up for promotion or not. It’s letting leadership know at the beginning of the year — this is my promotion year, this is the value I plan to deliver to the firm and clients, what other things would you expect to see from me to support me moving to the next level? Then having regular touchpoints on how you are progressing. I would find it strange if someone asked me if they were up for promotion or not. It would be a sign to me that they aren’t taking ownership of their development
What level were you trying to get promoted to? Usual time frame or early? Give us more details please
M. Usual timeframe. 6 years with the firm, 3 years with a 2 rating (including last year). Biggest issue was spent 5 months with a client that changed in scope. 2 other projects were good. Current project/PPD supported me and I am staffed in Manager role.
Thanks @D2