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PwC 🐠, I interviewed with the firm about 6 months ago for a Senior Associate position on the forensics team. I wasn’t extended an offer because the position was given to an internal transfer, at least what I was told. I tried reaching out to the recruiter I worked with last time but the email bounced back and wouldn’t be delivered. I was hoping to see / reapply if the group still was looking for seniors.
In your opinion, would it be best to reapply as a cold application?
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It’s “demoralizing” and “confusing” to have a partner review and revise your work and bill for it?
I don’t think so. I think it’s just a really poorly written complaint about the partner billing too much for review.
I am not clear on what the issue is here.
Either this is ragebait, or associates have no idea how much work it takes to get work product client-ready.
On my matters, at least, it is more like the junior spends 10 hours doing research and coming up with something not client-ready, a mid or senior spends 2 to 3 fixing it, and then I spend less than an hour or maybe an hour to make sure it is right and to modify it as needed. Different types of work and deliverables vary but that is the general theme. There are times I have to spend a lot more, especially if just working with one associate, and especially if that associate comes up with something that needs a lot of fixes.
I think the OP is saying the Partner is billing more than it takes to tweak a “few” sentences.
You don’t like that they review?
Probably means you’re under billing and the partner is filling the gap between what fees were proposed to the client vs what you billed
Not sure what you are talking about, with respect. Yes, associate work is reviewed, and frequently is modified, if that is what you are referring to.
Biglaw is incentivized for lazy product
Associate sends to midlevel, midlevel puts comments, goes back to associate to enter, then goes back to midlevel, then goes to partner, then goes back to a junior, then goes to client.
It’s a secret for sure, and the sham biglaw is run on.
Now this is rage bait.
As with any system there's potential for abuse, but if a partner is putting his name on something going out the door, I imagine he's reviewing / analyzing the whole document. The fact that he only weeks of sentence or two doesn't mean he hasn't reviewed the whole thing.
There's also a consumer confidence aspect of this. Most people (especially those paying big law rates) want someone with experience and expertise was involved in their matter.
A .2 entry from the partner to review the work of a junior associate doesn't inspire a ton of confidence that the partner is really keeping an eye on things.
What you’re saying is unethical and should be reported to the bar and the client.
Start your own firm then.
Some of the previous “advice” is disappointing to see. Good for you for reaching out and trying to sort through conflicting emotions. You deserve to be supported rather than judged and chastised.
Of course you are experiencing conflict. It is a great thing that after all this time, there is a wonderful opportunity. This isn’t a binary choice! Give yourself credit for creating space to hold all your emotions. I’m sure (at least I hope) that we can all agree… feelings are not right or wrong things.
That said, I think you will feel more positive and less concerned about this change if you have a plan for how you will handle the absence. As has been pointed out, you may come to love having this time and space for yourself! Do you have family or friends nearby? Who is physically close by who can offer support if/when needed? Lean on your women, friends! You do not need to do this alone and you don’t need to figure it all out by yourself.
A4, what about this are you asking?
This means that you are doing good work if they only have to tweak a few sentences. That doesn’t mean they didn’t have to actually review your work. Even if they had no changes it might take awhile to read through and check your work.