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Ive done both jobs and I can tell you hands down creative is more stressful. The pressure to perform is massive and the problems we solve are complex.
Account people certainly don’t have it easy, but a lot of their tasks are very linear and they tend to have a lot of days where all they need to do is send emails.
All things being equal, an account person’s future employability is not based on a portfolio.
A couple years of account people imposing a bad client’s whims onto the creative department can do a lot of damage to a creative’s portfolio and reduce their job prospects. Account people have no idea what that’s like.
So when a creative is crying, it’s not because they actually give a damn about that stupid ad. It’s because two years’ worth of stupid ads means 30–50 thousand dollars lower pay in their next job, or never getting hired at their dream agency.
Creatives jobs are hard.
But we are a bunch of princesses.
I once had an art director use the wrong logo in a presentation deck, and then refuse to change it to the right logo cuz, and I quote, "that's, like, a lot of work"
Well was the logo photoshopped on every end card, billboard and social post in the deck? If so, that is a lot of work. If it was small in the corner of every page, not so much.
I hate structure, I'm obstinate, and my emotions dictate my reactions. I'm a diva. And so are you. That's why we work in advertising.
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U a real one
Making a thread about it was definitely a drama queen move
dude. i am a creative. they are HELLA drama queens. maybe you aren't. but yes, we mostly are. i personally am not. i'd bank on my peers agreeing.
but you can be overworked AND a drama queen at the same time lol.
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Everyone thinks their own village be burning the worst.
Why does it need to be a debate about who’s job is harder. Two entirely different skill sets, role, responsibility.
They are both hard jobs. Why is this a debate.
The account person started the debate. They just started complaining about their team and said you know what I hate about creatives... blah blah blah. I was just trying to empathize with their team and add some perspective but they were drunk and it became this stupid thing.
Finally! An accounts vs. creatives argument! I’ve been waiting 20+ years for someone to bring this up!
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nice one Gordon
Ok here is the response I think you need to hear.
At the end of the day if there is no Creative product then there is nothing. So of course Creative is the most important department. Because without it, we’re out of having a product to sell.
However there are people in this business who are actually both good at being Creative AND being good partners with Account people who literally take more shit than you know every day to just protect you from the BS so you can just focus on doing your job.
So how about we respect you for doing what we need to survive and you respect us for being your shield and stop trying to re-litigate who has it harder.
We need each other. Period
I cannot exist without my account team.
I’ve done both as well.
Account is very stressful because of the client. Creative is very stressful because of account and the client.
Creatives talking about how hard they've got it.... what else is new?
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Who else gonna hold these account mofos accountable
They’re not wrong.
The real truth is that I’d rather have mediocre account people and great creatives than great account people and mediocre creatives.
That’s why we put up with the diva behavior (to an extent) from creatives.
I point out that on average, we generally bill waaay more hours than anyone else in the agency + creative process and reviews are a different beast than day to day client meetings. They argue we don’t understand how hard client management is. Everyone at dinner table piles on, and says we are describing literally every industry and indeed it sounds like creatives are just drama queens.
Please discuss.
Sounds about right
Ok but the question is, is the critique valid?
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Oh this is the same LED who said cd’s have the easiest job. Go back to your flow charts
The account team’s job is thankless. Rarely is everyone happy, and they’re the ones having to deal with all of that internally and with the client. So I feel for the good ones at least.
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Honestly...... your account person is not wrong.
As a creative it's our job to get to the moon. Account people are there to make sure no ones dies along the way.
That, but also to help us convince the client that we need to build a rocket ship and not a freaking airplane
Only thing I’ll say about this is creatives have every right to refuse to use slack and other IM platforms. If you disrupt me with an IM it will take me 20+ mins to get back into whatever I was working on. If you need to reach me, email is a perfectly valid means of doing that. If it’s a true emergency, call me. Do not IM me “hey.”
GOD so true. 30 minutes just to get into the voice of a brand. it's hard to explain to account sometimes. then ten minutes to write fifty headlines. one IM completely resets that clock.
I married the Account Director I used to work with. In daily life... he is always organized, makes clear sheets about finances and always arranges everything on time. He even starts packing his suitcases days before we go on vacation.
I, on the other hand, are the total opposite.
yo as a creative most of y'all are divas and your work does not merit that behavior.
the rest of us are also divas because our work would merit that behavior if it werent for bad account people (and clients) keeping the work from getting there.