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Using an offer as leverage is a risk, and is better-served by an SVP than a junior copywriter. I mean no disrespect, but you're not indispensable to your agency. You're replaceable. Accept the offer and move on. Ultimately you chose to look for a reason; that reason isn't going away with $10k.
You shouldn't regret posting this. You got a lot of good advice. Don't take it personally, that's very millennial of you. $10k isn't much money at all, especially after taxes. What you should be more concerned with is the overall package. Culture, the brands you get to work on, how working for company a or b sets you up for your future roles, Benefits, 401k matching, perks.
Fuck you, @AD. Loyalty, and all that bullshit I'll save myself the trouble of recalling might work and be the norm on the boring, replaceable side of the industry... err... Account Management. But talent is the blood of this shit. And companies need less douches like you and more people who appreciate and relate to the poor pay structure on our end. @OP if you've gotten offered 10k more somewhere else it means you're not as replaceable and @AD was when he was an AAM. So be a dick and do what you want. Just make sure not to sound like a dick. Because in the eyes of Management it might be a douche move, but it's the o let one you've got and bet case scenario you'll have the other agency to cover that and raise their offer even more. Gamble or "stay loyal" making little for a lot for as much as they can run you dry - which they for sure will. Ain't that a dick move also?
Why wouldn't you just accept the offer after having gone through the process of getting and stringing the other company along?
I already regret posting this.
Jesus Christ, thank you for saying that @freelance 1. OP you can't crumble and slink away if the advice doesn't suit you.
If you really like where you are, there's no shame in telling your CD someone is interested. They may or may not give you a bump to try and keep you, or they can say we'd like you to stay but we can't pay anymore. If that happens you have an opportunity to fuck yourself, but score huge points that they won't forget.
Worst case they tell you to fuck off and you can bounce.
Is it a title raise as well? If not then it's almost a step back because your probably more likely to get a title raise and a salary raise where you are sooner than you are to get a title raise at a new place. If it's not a title raise then definitely leverage it with your current company. And express your company loyalty in doing so.. but always, be prepared for your company to tell you to take the offer.
What Havas1 said. Also, you're not displaying company loyalty by blackmailing your current employer with an offer from somewhere else. You accepted your current position less than a year ago at your salary so you were fine with those terms. Now you're clearly no longer fine with them if you looked for, applied for, interviewed for, and got an offer for another job. And now you want to go back and ask your employer for more money on top of whatever other advantages that job has that you don't want to lose. And, you're stringing another employer and team along into thinking you're interested in joining them. When are people going to understand this is douchy behavior + it's reflects poorly on you if you do stay at your company. And rightfully so.
Agreed. Unfortunately, having your cake and eating it too rarely exists. You have to choose between your current situation and the next one, but don't expect to merge them somehow and walk away unscathed with everything lining up perfectly for you. Review and decide for yourself what your priorities are, and know that when you ask for advice, you should receive it as a gift from others without obligation to follow it, of course.
Uh, I meant I regret posting this because people were fighting with each other on my post (which, admittedly, I should have expected considering the way fishbowl tends to go). Most of this is valuable advice, which I appreciate. I didn't "crumble and slink away", but thanks for the assumption.
Agreed. Not worth it at this point in your career. If you're really hurting for money, move on. If you feel that there are other benefits for staying then don't present the offer. Just deal with it for a while and if you feel you deserve a raise approach it with your CD. If you plan on staying there a while you'll want to use the counter offer where it makes more sense. Promotion + raise. Don't blow it now, you only get one shot at it per place. But I totally disagree with AD1 about loyalty to your company. Loyalty gets you nowhere these days. You're a commodity and there's a market for you. Agencies will put you in salary bands all day and underpay you. They have no loyalty to you. So you don't owe it to them. But there's more opportune times to use the counter offer.
Agree with what Freelance said earlier. Money is always nice, and it stinks thinking you're undervalued, but you do have to consider the other variables too. Hypothetically, I don't think many of us would take 10K more for a new role that was with bad clients and not the type of work we're interested in. In your current role, think about if you're learning enough and if you have a good mentor. How would things change in the new role? Most studies show job happiness is more related to those factors than the $$
What percentage of your current salary does 10k represent? If you're earning 50k it matters more than if you're earning 150k. Getting that extra 10k matters more when you're just surviving than when you've got money in the bank. Your boss and colleagues will get that. Especially if you all get on well already. And you'll probably meet them all down the road at the next firm. But don't switch if the other firm is markedly less good in terms of clients or great people you can learn from. And either way, you've nothing to feel remotely guilty about - until Martin Sorrell starts feeling guilty about his level of remuneration - or WPP or IPG shareholders start refusing their dividends. Advertising exists to make money. You deserve some of it.
You're just starting your career. 10k isn't going to change your life. You will still be check to check at a jr level. From here you have 2 paths. A) your going to focus on the best work and best opportunity and be underpaid at times. If you focus on the work and make great work the money will come. Or. B) chase money. Take jobs with big checks and small thinking. The golden cuffs will come into play down the road. You'll be making great money but your book will suck and you'll be stuck with few options for the next move. The career of a person who chooses (A) is longer and ultimately you fly past all those money chasers. It's a long hard road, but your young. Shut up and do the work. Kisses
Copywriter, you sound like a dick based on your profanity and very rude attitude. Just saying. Don't work yourself up so much or if you're unhappy with your situation, work to change it.
OP, for the record, I'd advise you to move on and accept the new offer with the increased pay instead of staying where you are, getting maybe a little more for asking them to counter your new offer, and having this on your file with HR and management for as long as you work there.
^ Because you didn't get the answer you want. For the record, everyone whose job directly relates to managing relationships with clients has echoed the same sentiments about handling this in a way that best reflects on you. It may not be what you want now, but in 10 years when a friend of a friend has the potential to get you an interview based on what they know, it'll matter.
Title raises don't matter, the money sorta matters at your level. Is the work any better at the new place?
Was typing my post when others commented simultaneously. Freelance1, right on!
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