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What they meant is, we’ll overpay you till the time we find a replacement
A lot of this depends on your current company culture. SoftwareONE has a boomerang culture, meaning we welcome former coworkers (that were good at their job) back with open arms, and the same is true when they are looking to leave and we convince them to stay.
Also, do you love managing people?
I was in the same boat at two previous places. I took a lesser title to get into an F10 corporation. Sometimes you have to step back to go forward. A “promise” by the end of next year is so far in the future that anything can happen in between. They could very well lay you off. Negotiating with a current employer never works because they know you want to leave. You also said it’s not a guaranteed promotion so to me it’s a no brainer. AWS will not negotiate a higher role (been there) and to move to a higher role means rescinding your current offer so you can go back to the applicant pool for a higher position. Take the AWS role, enjoy the higher compensation, and you’d have a FAANG experience under your belt. You’d be in a better position to get leadership roles because of it.
Agree with AD1 and VP1 on this.
Once you tell your employer that you're willing to leave and that you have an offer in hand, all bets are off, unless they want to give you a raise and promotion immediately. But here's the rub, they likely already know you have one foot out the door, so in my mind, they likely know that they are only going to be able to hold onto you for just a little longer anyway before you leave.
I'd take the role with AWS and the higher pay. When your eligible to apply for an internal position to move up, and your making things happen at the lower level, than a team lead position shouldn't be out of reach at all.
It's not so hard to switch from IC to a manager role at Amazon.
Questions to help guide your thoughts and decision making process:
- Why do you see not managing a team being an issue?
- How is that a problem?
- What are the elements that can offset this 'temporary' situation? Are they present in the new role?
- What can you get out of your new role that will help you grow in the next?
- Why did your current company didn't offer you the same opportunities earlier? What were the barriers? Are they still present, but the company is reacting and not working to lift these barriers?
- Would matching compensation satisfy you in a long term? Is trust still here on both sides?
- What excites you in the new role?
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Remember:
This is a change, and changes don't have to be permanent.
You also already demonstrated leadership and management capabilities in your current rolr. In your next role, you can always demonstrate these capabilities by leading projects or cross functional teams. It will be actually more challenging and help you develop stakeholders management skills (which helps in a matrixed organisation)
Leadership is not a status but a mindset, that you can use in any role.
I hope this helps,let me know!
Thanks for the detailed answer. I do agree about nothing being wrong with not managing a team. I can always ask for it if I want it in the new firm.
Here is the thing… change is difficult cause everyone likes their comfort zone. And AWS will definitely push you out of your comfort zone. If u look at it in a positive way - u’ll acquire skills that will transform your career journey (in a very positive way). Also - your employer knew your value… was just f’n you over on purpose. And u dont even know how long they’ve underpaid u. If u wouldn’t have found this role, they wouldn’t care about u. Even now, they are not fully willing to give you what u want, and not willing to guarantee a promotion. What will stop them from finding your replacement in few months? AWS is willing to invest in you. So think before you decline the offer. As someone said earlier - talk to your hiring manager at AWS. See if they can make you pm in 3-4 months.
So your current job wants you to wait ~14 months to be at the salary Amazon is offer now to be in a “lower” level position when you could switch to Amazon provided it’s the role you want earn more now and in ~12-14 months so a more manager type role if that’s what you want and get another bigger salary bump to go from IC to Manager?
Unless you hate writing code now, it's a no-brainer to take the higher comp + Amazon prestige.
I'm kind of in a similar boat, next month I'll be joining a tech company remotely that pays well above what any "software" company pays in my area for engineers. This role (senior engineer) can be considered a downlevel. But that doesn't matter to me since the pay is so much better. It's still IC to IC, so a much easier decision.
The downsides: being forced out of the comfort zone, WLB will take a hit at least while learning the new tech stack and testing the expectations of the role. You will have to prove your worth to get back to the M-level you desire.
Moving from an IC role to manager role is quite easy in Amazon and would definitely go for the AWS role
It was just a mere promise. There's no assurance. You should take the offer from the other company.
Take the AWS job. AWS us always looking for managers, so you should be able to find an internal transfer manager position down the road if you end up deciding that you definitely want to go down that path. The culture as a whole is positive on internal transfers.
Did you interview for an SDM role but receive an SDE3 offer? If your offer is currently for SDE3, I would 100% take it. We often hire managers, directors, VPs, and CTOs into Amazon SDE3 roles because we really do need your management experience, but you clearly showed you are still very hands on (equal parts player, equal parts coach). You will absolutely have the opportunity to move into a full time manager role in the future at Amazon! SDE3 is an opportunity to make a huge impact on a massive scale and bring all your technical and leadership experiences together. Best of luck!