If I know I want to be a copywriter, would it look bad to hiring managers for me to take a general marketing job in the meantime? But continue to be on the hunt for a jr copy role? Titles are cool, but there’s a point in time where money becomes cooler.

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Get whatever job you can get that will give your the physical, financial and mental peace of mind to pursue the job you want.

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No it won’t matter that you’re doing some other job, but what’s most important is your portfolio/book.

This is a common question about breaking into the creative side of advertising. Your resume doesn’t matter nearly as much as your book/portfolio. Take all the other jobs you want but ultimately what will matter is your book, not your experience.

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No, do not feel guilty about taking care of yourself and your bills. If you do want to pursue copywriting, though, make sure to keep adding projects to your book.

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Do you really want to be a cw anyway? Like if you're sure god bless but something a bit more technical is worth considering.

I haven’t seen many “director 1” jobs around lately.

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Do you have a portfolio? It’s possible to get hired without one, but that often includes all the stars aligning and meeting the right person who wants to take a chance on you. Otherwise this might come down to finances. Are you able to hold out for the CW job? This job will likely determine your near future, it’s still a bit of a process to switch roles once you’re in an agency. But yeah, if you need the money there’s no shame in taking a job that pays and actively working on finding a cw position from there, it may just take time or you may lose interest.

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