Looking for some quick guidance. I just purchase my first house and throughout the whole process it was very important for me to stay within my mortgage price range. Towards closing my lender walked me thru the closing disclosure and confirmed that my mortgage will be $3100. On closing day, I saw that my mortgage was listed for $3800. I refused to sign until I got him in the phone and he confirmed that it was a mistake and that I could go ahead and sign and that he will send me (see comment)

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Do you have all this in writing? If so, you can sue. If not, you’re SOL

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How well does the realtor know your mortgage broker?

What’s the difference between $3100 and $3800? Did the rate change? I would be livid if they changed the rate. I assume that the difference was changes in the escrow amounts.

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Yea not much you can do except back out of the deal…but then again you are under contract so you would have to look into the financing contingency. You could back out if with new mortgage your dti was over limit. Otherwise seller could sue you.

Shoot me a message if you want to chat. I’m a lender

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An updated mortgage payment disclosure. He never did. I closed on the home and moved in and the company sold my loan and the new loan servicer had my mortgage listed at $3800. I called my lender/broker and he kept confirming that the mortgage was $3100. When my realtor asked him how to go about fixing this with the loan service, he wrote us back to let us know that in fact $3800 was the correct mortgage. I didn’t budget for such a huge mortgage, how can I go about this? I looove the house

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At the time you signed you were not under duress. You were aware the mortgage amount was $3800 at the time of signing. What changed from the quote you were given? Mortgage amount? Rate? Term? You might be able to get them to honor the original quote under the truth in lending act but pretty unlikely since you agreed to the revised terms.

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It was the escrow payment

What caused the difference?

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So your loan officer underestimated property tax, insurance, or PMI?

Lawyer would give you a free consult but first you need to understand what specifically changed

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This is a complex and unfortunate situation. Seems that there has been a significant lapse in communication between you, the lender, and the loan servicer. While I strongly recommend seeking legal advice immediately to understand your options, I understand that hiring an attorney may not be feasible for you. In light of that, here are some alternative actions:

Free Legal Advice: Many communities have legal aid services that offer free consultations. A brief consultation could help you understand your options.

Negotiation: Contact the loan servicer to negotiate terms. If you have any written evidence indicating the $3100 mortgage amount, this could be crucial.

Consumer Advocacy Groups: There are consumer protection agencies that may be able to mediate on your behalf for free.

Social Media: Some people have had issues resolved by bringing them to public attention. This should be a last resort but is worth considering.

Roommates or Renting: If you love the house and want to keep it, consider taking in roommates or renting out a part to offset the cost.

Job Hunt: As you mentioned, a higher-paying job or a second job might be a practical route to afford the new mortgage rate.

Financial Counseling: Nonprofit organizations often offer free financial advice and may help you figure out how to adjust your budget.

These are some tough waters to navigate indeed. Good luck and I hope these suggestions provide some avenues to explore.

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I truly appreciate your detailed feedback. Because it’s just me and my little brother, I won’t feel comfortable getting a roommate since the 3rd bedroom is currently my office. I’m actively job hunting now as I feel like this might be my only option.

Could you have waived escrow? That’s what I did

I know but sometimes money comes in other way like bonuses or quarterly vested stocks. Or you have some reserves that you can put in an HYSA to have a few dollars of growth at the very least

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I hate to say this, but this is not uncommon. It sounds to me like you got someone who didn’t understand what you were asking for and gave you the front-end number instead of the all-in number. The $3,100 sounds like your Principal & Interest payment (P&I) aka the “pure mortgage” part of your payment. The other $700 is probably your real estate taxes and homeowner’s insurance (taxes & insurance) which is escrowed. It may also include “PMI” or “MIP”, which is mortgage insurance your mortgage company pays to protect themselves in case you default on the loan.

1) Principal & Interest - assuming you have a fixed rate loan, this won’t change unless you refinance to a lower rate.

2) Taxes & Insurance - shop around for insurance (but check to see if the lender will accept any new company before you lock in a replacement policy), and don’t forget to check with the taxing authority for any discounts you may be entitled to as a homeowner. Many places have a homestead tax exemption that can help a little bit. Typically you need to apply for the tax break, so follow up on that.

3) MIP/ PMI - not sure if this is even still applicable these days, but if so, call your mortgage company and ask how this can be removed. It use to be that when your mortgage was paid down to 75-80% of your home value, this would go away. When home prices are on the rise, homeowners could sometimes get a new appraisal to show their loan was now at the 75-80% range.

Good luck out there.

Does the 3800 include tax and ins?

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