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Let people live their own lives. It’s not affecting her work
Agreed. If it does not reflect on their work or interfere with their performance, and as long as it does not endanger the organization legally, it's their own business. If a person goes hunting on the weekends and kills animals for food, does it merit reporting just in case someone is offended or a PETA supporter?
The fact that you are concerned about how YOU will be impacted by her personal decision, and that YOU are now afraid that YOU can't treat her fairly without casting some sort of judgement, is troubling.
I have to agree with you that you do have a toxic workplace with very toxic leadership. And guess what? You are HER 'leader'.
If you truly want to be honest with her, send her THIS THREAD so that SHE can go to HR and ask to move to a different team/department. She deserves better than working under 'toxic leadership'.
@Author if keeping my job requires me potentially firing someone for something they do in their personal time to make extra money which doesn’t conflict with company products and isn’t anything illegal, then I’d find a new job.
Reprimand her? For what? It’s 2022 - some people get naked on the internet for subscription money…..oooooo. It’s really no big deal.
Everyone telling you that this is potentially discrimination should be your first very big red sign that the majority of us have seen people sue for MUCH less.
I think you should have a word with her.
"Hi X, this is off the record, I am giving you a heads up as a leader. This non for profit is conservative and word is out about your after work life on the internet. I do not have details as to what it is and how far word has gotten."
See what she says.
Dont use words that are related to x rated or adult or brought to my attention or investigation or further actions.
Dont reprimand her, dont talk about her work unless it affects it
And for a conservative non profit, the snitch gets no heat for finding this info? Because were they doing on only fans? Doing what, subscribing?
LOLOL he went to onlyfans.com on his sons phone? Convenient. Also agree with some of these other comments about judgement from the OP. The way you wrote “her side of the story” suggests there was wrongdoing on her part and or she needs to clarify something she was thought to have done wrong. Also Re your male employee: “He would never do that”…would you have said this about your female employee before you were informed of her job? It sorta sounds like you would have based on your shock and not being able to look at her the same so maybe don’t be so naive.
Its 2022. You need to get a grip.
@Associate 1, congrats on being a a massively judgmental PoS that thinks you know everything about everyone. Keep riding that high horse so the rest of society knows to avoid you.
I understand what you are saying. But don’t understand how this falls back on you and a risk to your job. I actually think anyone who tries to fire you or reprimand you is putting themselves at risk.
This is an issue that you can’t take on. It’s an issue for society and culture to work out.
@manager look… you are just contributing to office gossip by spreading the gossip… learn how to deal with your feelings about the situation and be a professional… it’s not illegal… and who cares what your leaderships will think… if gossiping keeps you “safe” in that company… you’re being manipulated in a toxic company culture… I’d run!
Also, why aren’t you reprimanding the person who brought this to you attention? It’s completely unprofessional to involve you like this if the person did not have a concrete outcome. Is this person just being salacious? I feel that’s a bigger problem.
A heads up about what? She's not coming to your house to do this part-time job. He sounds like a concern-troll at best and an awful person at worst.
This really doesn't fall into the category of protecting the company. Is she stealing money? Giving information on bids to your competitors? These are the kinds of things you would get fired for knowing about and not doing anything. What she does with her body on her own time has nothing to do with you or the company unless she wears the company logos during her OF sessions - that might be against company branding and communications. If you told your leadership it would be driven 100% by your emotions and not logic.
That makes sense, you bring up some very compelling arguments.
If this isn’t having a negative effect on their job and it took someone going out of their way to reveal what someone does outside of work to you, then it should continue to not be a problem just as it was before you were aware. There is nothing wrong with sex work and someone’s personal judgments of that should NOT spill over into the workplace.
20 years ago, I had a coworker who moonlighted as a Craigslist dominatrix. My only concern for her was her safety, so I was like, gurl take pepper spray and let people know where you're going. I knew a couple of people who worked as dominatrices at an established den in college. I have friends who stripped in college, and graduated without loans.
2 of these women are among the most intelligent women I've known. Was I okay with it? Yeah, dude, it's not MY life and choice to make. I think it's a bad-hearted person who comes at this with judgement instead of understanding. One of these genius-dominatrices had a mom who was an Actual Judge, and even she wasn't a dick about it when she found out.
Have you tried just getting over yourself? It's easy, free, and fun!
I bet many of your employees also have VERY ACTIVE Facebook accounts and post content that could also be embarrassing for the company... its none of your business until it interferes with your business and the employee that told you needs a conversation from you about staying out of other peoples business.
Mind. Your. Business.
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LOLOLOL
How would they know? How did you find out? Is she a public figure head or part of the comms department dealing with press?
Reprimand her? Are you kidding? Is there something in her contract that states this type of activity not allowed?
My suggestion is to mind your business. Which this isn't. If you discuss it with her you need to explain how you found out about it. Which means you were either watching her content or participating in workplace gossip and rather than stopping it brought it to the employee. I would actually say, by even suggesting you'd reprimand someone for this, that you are the one being inappropriate.
She must be seriously underpaid is all I'm gonna say
Or she is greedy just like many of us and wants the extra money.
Leave people alone, you are overreaching into her personal life.
Exactly....
Wait, it's R rated? If it's not even X rated then why are you even bringing it up.
Get with the times, her personal life has nothing to do with her work unless she is in PR.
OP hasn’t even seen the content, this is all secondhand information
We live in a creator economy, look around.
You're happy with your colleagues consuming the content but not creating?
It's super weird that your colleague knew about her OF, I'd be more worried about that.
I hope you fire her, then she sues you, it would be the best PR she'd ever receive.
The story about the colleague finding the OF profile on his son's phone is utterly laughable and makes the OP sounds incredibly naive.
There's a staggering amount of porn out there, what are the odds that the guy's son happened to subscribe to this woman's profile, unless she's a name brand porn star?
The much more likely explanation is that the guy who raised this issue had reason to believe the woman was on OF (her overheard her talking about something, found a link in her social media, whatever) and is now trying to get her in trouble.
Are you considering reprimanding the (I presume guy) who found here on Onlyfans for subscribing to that site? Also, if you are concerned, how about pay her more so she doesn't feel a need to do this side work. She isn't doing it because she likes it, she likely just needs the money. And again....are you going to reprimand the guys that frequent these sites as well?
Okay here’s my take, what if the “good man” hit on her and she denied him after he saw her OF and how he’s trying to get back at her.
Idk I think this needs a Netflix documentary.
The only negative PR you'll ever get is when she sues your ass after you sack her for that.
Morals aside, ask yourself:
1. Can you prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it's actually her and not her identical twin sister or some random woman who just looks like her?
2. Can you prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the OF page can be easily connected to the company by another person outside the company (is the company logo or office seen in the photos? Or is her full name is on the OF page and the same full name can be traced somehow to the company because her name is on company publications and it's an uncommon name)?
3. Can you prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that having OF is a direct liability to the company or against company rules?
If the answer to ANY of these three questions is no, you definitely shouldn't do anything about it
If all three answers are yes, you can start to consider maybe you should, but even then, you and the company probably have much more to lose than gain
What I liked with your answer is the fact that you keept saying what evidence do you have to back up the claim. Its very true.