Okay... first year ID associate. How fast should I be leaving this area, and what area of lit offers the best exit? The writing is on the wall.

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Good for you for recognizing. Get out as soon as possible.

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Not all ID is terrible, although high volume car crash cases can be pretty bad. Med mal and employment have higher rates and good transferable skills. Preferably you have a mix of ID work to cut your teeth and some direct clients to get other experience too.

If you get med mal and employment work you can go to firms that have direct clients, hospitals in house, etc. and the value of those cases tends to be higher. ID in employment and med mal can open doors to direct clients and other areas of law that are lucrative. From my med mal ID work I’ve developed a lot of individual physician clients that I represent before medical boards, their employers, etc. at much higher rates with no insurance co involved.

Also developing a very lucrative contingency practice for HCQIA/privilege revocation cases. Really any exposure to the medical industry will have some transferable skills and introduction to non-ID areas.

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Yes, and would add product liability & non-medical professional liability (architects, accountants, lawyers) insurance defense cases to this list.

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I was an ID associate for half a year. Run asap

Regarding other areas, depends on what interests you. Commercial lit is not a bad transition, but can be too broad sometimes. You can really transition into any lit if you have a story showing why you want to be there

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I made the switch from ID to a big L&E firm as soon as I could and it was a great change. Eventually that allowed me to go in house.

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What are the big 4 LE firms?

Agreed, and if salary is a concern, ID partners I know bill at rates barely above those of associates with 20 years less of experience

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Appreciate all these replies. Thanks everyone.

Just a quick add-on: how much time can I stay before I’m “tainted” or seen as stuck as being a ID lawyer.

I got out right at the two year mark. Took me a bit of time but it was possible. And as A2 stated, the money in ID sucks compared to other practices. So do the exit options (outside of going to insurance company or jumping to PI, which can be lucrative)

I seriously do not understand all of the aversion to doing ID. I moved from a boutique construction lit firm with all self-pay clients to an ID firm and could not have imagined anything better. I’m still doing construction law but the mix of other cases (car wreck, slip and fall, premises liability) keeps the work interesting. Sure, dealing with the ID rates and billing software and that wants to cut legit time is a pain and the fact that adjusters can be difficult at times isn’t the best…but ID litigation can be whatever you make it out to be.

That being said, if you aren’t in a good environment…it makes sense to want to move somewhere different. I’m lucky in that I moved from a terrible partner/mentor situation to a firm where the partners genuinely care about my growth as an attorney. Bad situations can happen in any practice area but I don’t see how ID is viewed as the source of all evil on here.

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