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Serious question: I’ve worked in MBB, Big 4 and tier 2, and the number one reason I’ve heard for younger (less than 5 YoE) talent leaving is that they are “not doing strategy work.” It’s also the top request from younger staffers to do on every engagement team I’ve led. The question: Are there any consulting firms really letting new talent do this? Or is this the top delusion of new MBAs entering the consulting world?

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my very first project out of UG was an org design project which I think falls under the realm of "strategy" so I guess it still happens? and no, it was not sales force related 🙃

@OP that seems like an unfair amount of entitlement you’re attributing to entry level hires. There’s being eager and wanting to take on responsibility and then there is what you just described.

As a younger, high performing staff, I take this more so as getting stuck on implementations where you are bowing to the client and not learning much after the first couple months. I don’t need to do “strategy” but would enjoy my job a hell of a lot more if I was able to do more work in the assess/design phases of projects.

Yes - but depends on how you define strategy (pricing strategy or GTM strategy vs blue sky corporate strategy, etc)

1. Yes, consulting firms let people do strategy. 2. It isn't a delusion, it is a result of misleading recruiting practices by firms. Everyone talks about cool 8-12 week strategy projects, but neglects to mention that much of the work is not strategic, or is longer term, or whatever else. New hires, whether post MBA or post UG, are not experienced/informed enough to see through the smoke and mirrors. 3. The people who were fine just doing PMO or whatever else have more options. For example, they can do bizops, ops, or program management in tech and make more/similar money with better WLB. This wasn't as much of an option 10 years ago because tech was smaller.

I would agree with Manager 1. I think the way that we sell our firms to new hires is very much based on the sexy work that we do, but the reality is that only a small subset of hires end up in those roles, while most get to see the glamour of long term implementation or staff aug type work. There are plenty of exits that enable entry level hires to do work that they’re interested in, versus being placed in staff aug type roles with little growth. I think setting expectations early on would perhaps lead to less attrition early on.

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