The skills & academic stamina of students in adv. classes are the lowest my colleagues and I have ever seen across ALL subjects. Students also seem not to care about the quality of their work, goal setting, & improvement like they did pre-C-19. Being back in person for a year has not erased the learning losses; in fact, this group is worse off than last year’s classes. Do you see this trend in your advanced programs? I wonder if it’s a district curriculum & philosophy issue or more widespread.

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I can agree with this, not to mention behavior :(

Our learning gains were nonexistent, and this year's kiddos are just... not doing the work. Like, no one is doing the homework? They don't ask why they got a low grade on an assignment?

I'm so confused... It's my 6th year teaching a college level course and I don't know why it's like this.

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When we talk about it, most kids say they are a little worried, but it doesn’t control their thought and they know it’s not likely. A small group let’s it impact their decisions and schoolwork. I’d say 10-20% (which is a high number) but doesn’t support apathy across the board resulting in lower scores and knowledge. It could be higher in your school, and I am certainly sorry about that.

Polls would also support this. Depending on the poll, about 20-25% are usually very worried…that would be the group that may be apathetic. About another 30% usually say somewhat worried/think it could happen. So the majority are not overly concerned or apathetic because of the current climate. About 75-80% then would fall into not being apathetic. The is not overly worried about shootings to the point of it decreasing ability.

I do support gun reform in some fashion, but I also want teachers and students to know that they’re chances of being killed in a shooting in your school is unbelievably small. No it’s not 0, even though I wish it was. But it’s not close to being large enough to dictate how you live your life.

I would say last years sophomore group was one of the brightest advanced classes I’ve taught across the board. (7 years so not a huge sample). Still, they excelled in nearly every advanced course, from speaking to my colleagues.

This year is too early to tell. They seem average, but I can’t make a call after 8 days.

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I don't have "advanced classes," because our school is too small to support such divisions. However, I have been in forums with college professors who are seeing the same thing. Students have difficulty writing at all, let alone well, and they do not care about little things such as grammar.

Last year's high school freshmen had such a low writing ability that I cut out some of the literature I would normally have covered in favor of spending more time in grammar and writing. I do not have the freshmen for English this year, so I cannot make a comparison. (But I have them for algebra, and the amount of basic skills they are lacking is mind-boggling.)

I understand your frustration!
There are studies by Krashen and others about how lit can improve writing skills, in the long run. Just fyi! I know the pendulum swings, and we have to teach skills asap. But I wonder what you'd think about them, and Stephen Krashen's related "input" theories, just fyi. All best!

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