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Hello, I have an offer from Publicis Sapient for their product management internship program. Wondering if anyone has any insight into the program (exits, etc) and how the return offer looks like in terms of salary. I still also hold an interest in data science so might go with another offer but I’m not sure if it is a wise choice to let go of a PM offer while I have it.
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While they may appear excessive to those of us who did not have them when we were children, I think they hold value as reminders of what is important in our lives: Family.
Necessary? Maybe, maybe not. But that is none of our business.
YIKES!! Venting publicly about accommodating employees — even anonymously — is not a good look for anyone in HR, let alone someone whose job is people advocacy.
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You mean, is someone’s child’s milestone life event important? Yes.. yes it is.
That’s what happens when you do scheduling - it’s no different than Christmas or holidays during the year.
I understand that it’s probably a lot of moving parts - but imagine needing to attend a funeral, important appointment or a family members birthday and the person doing scheduling is passively aggressive about you wanted to take time off - which is part of your total compensation.
Take the moment, be frustrated - but this attitude is giving me angry spinster with 5 cats as a vibe. That definitely isn’t an employee-first mindset.
Agreed. The vibe I got from the original author was "adult survivor of working parents who didn't bother to show up to any of their milestones." But loyalty to one's own childhood neglect and wishing it upon others - that's a choice. If the author isn't delighted to struggle with the scheduling challenges - they are missing an opportunity to "heal it forward!"
Picture the kid who is at their graduation looking around for their caregiver. Would you rather have your employee at work at that moment or there to give their child a big hug to celebrate?
My grandson is in the honor roll. He graduated from the bbbs, he graduated from the police academy classes, he also graduated from the CTC, he was student of the month and now he is graduating from high school and I would never miss it. I was present in all of them. Things like that are one in a lifetime. They will remember who was there with them.
This is not a statement made by someone who belongs in an HR role.
Wow! I forgot having a life outside of work and celebrating actual milestones is apparently frowned upon now. Clearly we should all just dedicate every waking second to work instead.
Just say your parents didn’t celebrate you… it’s ok… Sending hugs..
No, but I didn't miss any of my kids graduations and it certainly isn't worth missing it for a job.
We have to ensure we are holding value to “Human” within “Human Resources.” This post is sad and the reason why HR gets a bad reputation. Do better.
May I ask are you a parent?
I think you are missing an opportunity to support your employees celebrating milestones in their loved lives, its not about you - its about showing support for employees who work for your company. If they don’t feel supported and valued, it could lead to retention issues and then you have more scheduling problems on your hands.
I find this post to be quite odd. As an HR business partner, we should be here to support the business and the employees as best as we can. While I understand scheduling can cause some sort of undue hardship to the business, we should also ensure that we’re accommodating our employees for engagement. Not sure if you transitioned into HR from another role, but you may want to adjust your mindset slightly as you develop within the HR space.
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It's not "undue hardship," though. Their job is to create the schedule around the availability of the staff.
It looks like you have a problem with people having a life outside of work. It may be an inconvenience to you but it is important to the employee and their child that is graduating. What if no one showed up for your graduation? It is only a couple of weeks.
As an administrator of a school, I will agree wholeheartedly. We have parents who ask up to do a graduation for kindergarten. We refuse. You graduate when you complete the entire program, not a grade. Imagine graduating 8 times by the time you are 22 years old. How impactful is that college graduation? Its just another ceremony that, quite frankly, many are tired of. Our program ends in 8th grade. It is advanced. It is difficult. It is rewarding. We have a graduation for 8th grade. And, to ensure attendance and support with minimal economic impact, we host it in the evening. I wish more schools were like this. Save it for the end of High School or the highest grade your district/company offers. (We are private) Schools shouldn't have to cave to the desires of a small group of parents for issues no one else cares about and no one truly benefits from.
You should not be in the school system.
Yes, yes they are. It’s called family and being a parent and I would not miss a minute of my child’s milestones. Sounds like you might want to rethink you’re career choice and I’m in HR.
Yes, each and every one is very much necessary. And no one should have to explain why.
Maybe try to put yourselves in their shoes before you get upset for all the extra work. They have families and responsibilities outside of this job. Children they are raising to be good humans when they grow up, to know they are loved.
You should always remember that employees that are happy call in sick less and are more productive. If they take a day off for family, they will make it up.
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I might be in the minority, but I think some of them have got a bit out of hand 😂 Every milestone seems to have a ceremony now.
YES! They necessary.
Okay, I kind of feel you there. I'm 62, I remember having a kindergarden, 5th & 8th grade, and then 12th. Aside from my formal degrees, I just the four.
PreK wasn't a thing back then and personally that is just a waste. More of a time for the adults to celebrate...what?! Now. not sure of your age, but you have to remember three of those?