To all UK doctors leaving medicine to join consulting/corporate: would you stay in the NHS if salaries were similar to consulting?

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No. Would not go back. In the NHS, you’ll be bullied, degraded, exhausted, stressed you’ll make a mistake and spoken down upon by most of your seniors and nurses. Consulting, all I have to do is make slides and I make good money. Best trade off ever

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Salary isn't the only issue; there are far greater frustrations driving people out, unfortunately.

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No. Recruitment, training and progression is broken too. Everywhere needs more trainees but they aren’t funded, if you’re fortunate enough to get a training position it means moving across the country every 2-3 years for the privilege of being underpaid, workplaces with no windows, nowhere to change, can’t safely store a bike, access nutritious food, nowhere to rest, being sworn/spat/screamed at, working nights and weekends with the rota half empty, no permanent nursing staff; then not even having the resource to deliver even a fraction of the care you’ve been trained for. If you can’t already tell, I’m never going back!

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Because it’s a scam. You spend 5-6 years doing a degree so you feel pressured to continue. Esp being in a hospital bubble so you have no exposure to consulting backing or other careers

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Are salaries not similar to consulting? I know I’m in big 4 and though initially earned a bit more than my Dr mates, they now all earn a lot more than me, have much more favourable access to things like mortgages and potential for a wildly better pension.

I’m not arguing they shouldn’t be paid even more for their hard work, just didn’t realise discrepancy was actually that high outside of MBB where realistically, how many medical professionals want to make slides for a living?

Salary as a consultant doctor in the NHS is about 100k, exacts vary, and this is only after 6 years of uni and 5-9 years of post-grad training. Making more than 200k in the NHS is rare, and you can only start private work as a (senior) consultant as you need the experience.

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honestly yes, but only because i love(d) my specialty of interest and it's one of the better ones (run-through an still relatively good training for now). for anything else, not a chance.

It will never be similar. If you work at tier 2 or MBB, you can make £100k in 3-4 years.

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