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Diversity hires have it rough - as a double minority, there were a lot of things I had to figure out starting in college to navigate what they call "professionalism" - if you are able to, you can really propel yourself WAY ahead of your peers.
That being said - not to be that person - Racism is still very real.
People naturally have ingrained unconscious bias and support those that represents themselves their daughter or their son while ey is making leadership aware aware of the issue the fact is black employees get less bd opportunities and less access to information on the movement of the firm so they can learn the business additionally most of the time when a black makes a mistake there is no second chance to rectify and unconscious bias make it's easier to right off the employee
Diversity to me is neither good nor bad, neither something to promote nor resist. I believe in merit. Only the strong shall survive. In fact I feel like too much promotion of it for it's own sake is silly, is virtue signalling or being a social justice warrior (but the judgement leveled at me when I am so unprudent as to even hint at such notions towards peers or people I like is no laughing matter). But let's say someone gets in who is slightly less qualified because of diversity. Well you're not going to keep promoting them all the way up the chain. This person eventually will not be retained. Eventually you have to pay the Piper, after so much damage has been done to many parties.
Another thing, about belief systems. It could be true that all human races are identical in all ways mentally and emotionally and tempermentally and human biodiversity is only skin deep. I'm open to that theory too but if that's the only view you allow, then if you see different success outcomes, you're naturally going to believe it is due to some kind of discrimination or conspiracy as opposed to differences in capacity, and you're going to want to rectify it politically, with strong conviction in tow and heaping doses of self righteousness.
But I'm not a fascist or nazi, just a libertarian/ free thinker and free speech advocate, the anti millennial millennial. But promoting diversity publicly is expedient and will make you popular, especially with young women, word to the wise. Just ask Trudeau, Beatty and Hefner.
Do you have any studies or support for your assertion?
^You stated that blacks are given only one chance, implying that non-blacks are given more than one chance.
"Most of the time when a black makes a mistake there is no second chance to rectify" I believe that was your statement, verbatim...
EY3 looks like you need to re-read EY2's statement. She, as a double minority, did not mention anything about blacks in general but referred to her own situation.
^Didn't nobody understand what you was saying
@manager 1 I understand but that is EY4s point, it doesn't have to be said. Take the conversation out of big 4 and apply it to public school education as I know teachers who have said "well they aren't going to be engineers" so the follow through on that individual and the will to be persistent, encourage etc is already gone. That unconscious perception and bias is a perpetual cycle that follows from school to the work place. And here in the workplace the people In charge are that of an older generation not to say the younger generation is any better. Again this is hard to talk about because one side feels neglected the other is offended in that the remarks are generalized against another race etc or because it's just not their experience but black people know...we know... I think it's hard to accept but OP I personally emphasize not looking at other people/races to change the situation. The change starts with you, but I understand the need to want to talk about it. And don't ever feel like b/c bias exists that you can't make it, if you want to, you can make it. And don't ever let anyone make you feel like you don't deserve it when you do!
Ok this is dead ... black community actually as more active parental involvement than other groups specifically when it come to black father hood this is a false narrative of inferiority and you are obviously trolling at this point
Did you even read that article? The study set up monitored unemployed workers. That's totally different than a study of B4 employees...
I see someone learned how to google. Newsone? Is that even a legitimate source? I've never heard of them.
An article written 4 years ago posted on "Newsone". I'd hardly call that a legitimate story.
Accounting generally attract white peoples. Growing up black nobody ever mentioned accounting as a degree that I could be successful in. As a matter of fact when I told friends and family that I took the accounting route they all thought I wouldn't be successful. In the African American community they don't teach us about success outside of certain majors like medicine or engineer etc. I do think it's very difficult to be black in a field that's dominated by whites. It's intimidating, sometimes there's less common grounds, less things to relate to etc. those pressures can play a role into our progression in the firm. I hope that I can stay and make that difference to be honest. There's nothing like seeing and shaking hands with a manger or above at a recruiting event that's the same race as you are when you are a minority. My office treats me wonderfully but that still doesn't mean I don't feel different or have pressure
Good question. But some here are now talking about "loneliness". It looks like we're looking for equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity. In New York for example, not many black high school students go on to pursue accounting and finance careers. Go into those communities, talk to people from those communities out there and in your office and you'll learn why.
PWC3, if you refer to my post, then please let me explain myself a bit better. It is not about need of facts, it is about need of conversation where each of us makes an effort to understand, to listen. I feel like facts became a fast food of communication. Easy to check, easy to find, and easy to shit all over the message board.
@Manager1 you write too much
PwC 3 I let you rethink that. Not all 140 have CPA certifications. And if you read the chronology of the comments you will notice that the article was posted after my comment. But thanks, I don't have a problem anymore. Wait, I never said I had one!!!
M1 is misinformed (or doesn't want to believe it) with the questioning on minority retention rates. This information has come directly from multiple partners and people personnel (at least at EY). However, I love the dialogue and willingness to engage in discussion.
^^the firm itself has said so.
I've seen shitty white coworkers been given short strings and no second chances. I think most of these incidents at the individual level are just cases of confirmation bias. You've got this theory stuck in your head and you unconsciously select the cases that fit the theory and forget the cases that don't. There is something to be said about the lack of minorities within firm leadership, which the firms are clearly trying to address.
@manager 1 it seems like you are admitting race is a factor in rating. That being the case what makes you think the decision can't go both ways (promote due to diversity or fire due to minority). Either way I don't agree with you. And I don't believe there has to be a lawsuit to prove that. Ey4 didn't say in every single case that it applies. It's very hard to argue these posts in a social media medium versus sitting at a table face to face. Racial conversations can easily get heated and there's no need for that in here. So OP stay encouraged