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I’ve never really faulted people for this, but I do wonder if something is up when they only stay for a year and a half or less at each place. Means they weren’t gelling, or not able to make good work, or were possible discovered to be a fraud. Exceptions to every rule of course, but it would definitely be something I investigate in an interview
Definition of "works for you" is important here. It needn't mean you want it for a long time. Maybe you learn want you wanted to or lived where you wanted to and it's time to move on. More enlightened companies see this.
Resumes with, say, more jobs than years suggest you're likely to bounce soon into the job should they hire you. A lot is spent on recruiting and onboarding you, and they don't want to start over in nine months. I don't think every few years looks bad, though.
I want to make a hire for 2-3 years. I’m not looking for a life long commitment here. I’m looking to build a team that gels over time and matured and grows. if you bounce every year, that doesn’t help me when it takes 6 months to get situated.
The higher up you get, it becomes more of a negative because your commitment to your teams/ clients/ company is questionable. Early on, it's not as big deal.
It’s fine up to a point. But if you’ve had 4 jobs and not one of them has worked for you what makes you think this one will be any different?
2 years is average. 3 years is above average.
Ask them what their turnover rate and tenure stats are when they talk about it.
I find people outside of the industry and especially older generations just can’t wrap their heads around our bouncing around nature. I’m usually good for 2-3 years and then something better pops up or I get itchy
The jumping is also provoked by the nature of the client world. CMO stays at a brand for 36 months on average. Agency review is every 2 years. Layoffs are rampant as is constant pitching, staffing up and then right sizing of the ship. I’ve seen layoffs every year of my career since 2010. I think it’s just expected to make a move one way or another, on your terms or theirs.
For creatives it's called the 3-year itch. It's almost an industry standard to move. Almost the only way to grow/get more experience.
Right now having 4 years at my first place is a nice selling point for moving to a smaller shop that wants to hire people to help grow the company. It’s turning out to be a great asset for me as I have proven myself able to commit and care.
I did a lot of that early on. For the most part no one cares because in certain fields the competition for talent is fierce. That said, do take some time to figure out what you want near term and long term for your career. You don’t need to figure it all out but it can’t always be about money. At some point, money won’t erase all the other shit you’re giving up for it.
I wouldn’t really want to invest in someone (training, mentoring) just so they can leave immediately... as someone said, I am not asking for a lifetime commitment but I do want to see some commitment
I will not hire a person that switches jobs every year or two. You might have very good reasons to do this, but I do not care: I just will not invest in a person who will leave soon.
Three years is more than ok, especially if the story is right.
Because companies invest in employees - education, training, processes, and have costs associated with Attrition. If you stick around for years, you become more a part of the culture and such. If you just jump from thing to thing, you lend to the impression you don’t care about being part of something for the haul
It can take up to six months to get someone fully up to speed on a piece of business. Why would a company want to invest in you if they know they will be likely to start that process again a year later - at the expense of the client and the rest of the team?