Am I overreacting? I am taking Wednesday off to take my kid to an appointment that is going to take most of the day. I’ve had it scheduled for months now and it’s been on the calendar. My manager has been giving me passive aggressive remarks about how inconvenient it is to have a day off in the middle of the week and “oh I forgot you have a vacation on Wednesday” as if sitting in traffic and going to an appointment is a vacation. Also it’s none of their business how I spend my time off?

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Your PTO is part of your compensation package and how you use it is absolutely none of your manager’s business.

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After three months, she would not have PTO. If she did, it would only be a couple of hours.

I got a verbal warning after using 3 sick days to take care of my sick kid. Literally one of the top people came and said I gotta give you a verbal warning cause you called off 3 days in a 12 week period. But I used my sick time and it was approved. I'm still floored. Companies offer time off then get mad when you use it.

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Same thing happened to me years ago, but I foolishly used my vacation time because I felt guilty calling off sick for my child.

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Dont waste your energy on your manager! Its your life and family comes 1st!

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Remember, it’s not the company’s problem that your children are sick. They expect you to have a back up plan or a babysitter in this case these rules are in place everywhere.

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That is absolutely not okay. As a leader, I apologize for that. It’s definitely not okay to shame time off, time off helps everyone be a better employee and helps the emotionally stability of themselves and the team.

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I agree,
You can diplomatically remind your supervisor that just as they have the right to take PTO time off for WHATEVER reason, you as a valued employee reserve that same right and you expect the same respect as you give!

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I purposely never ask WHY my people need time off because it's not an employer's business what people are using their time off for.
I simply ask them to clearly state if it MUST be that day, or if there is an alternative date that would also be ok.
Then, I make it happen.
If they tell me - that is fine.
Otherwise, I see them when I do.
Jobs take up far too much of our lives to be entitled to knowledge about how we spend both our work AND personal time!

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Well said, thank you!

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It is none of their business, but have you shared that you're going for an appointment? If not they're just assuming. Ignore the passive aggressive comments, probably just jealous and hoping they can have an off day from work

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Its annoying, but try to take it with a grain of salt. At the end of the day, you don’t need to explain the reason for taking time off. You have a life outside of work

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Yeah, I’m doing my best. It’s been helpful to get perspective from people outside of the situation.

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This is exactly why everyone should not have loyalty to ANY employer, they have none to you.

I hear this SO often- making people feel guilty for using their earned PTO, which of course, IS part of their compensation package.

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You should’ve just asked for the day off and not told him what you were doing

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Go to HR. That’s harassment.

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HR is NOT your friend.

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It’s none of their business what you do on your personal time, you earned that time. Remember your a mother first the job is secondary.

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Exactly. I always tell my team, there are 7 of us and your family only has one of you. ❤️

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Next time she drops one of her signature passive-aggressive comments, look her square in the eyes—do not look away—and deliver this in your calmest, most even tone

You know, I’ve been thinking about our communication style. Moving forward, comments like the one you just made are completely unacceptable in this workplace, and I won't be tolerating them anymore.

First of all, the subtle mind games? Fascinating, but I’m just not available for that kind of psychological conditioning. Second, I understand that my schedule or boundaries might be an inconvenience for you. Truly, I do. But that is strictly a you problem. My priority is my son, and that’s not up for negotiation. Finally, if this pattern continues, I will be filing a formal complaint. I’ll leave the details of who receives that paperwork as a surprise for later.'

Now is the time to quietly build your fort while she processes the fact that her subtext didn't work. Here is your homework:
Know Your Laws: Check your state's labor laws regarding workplace harassment. If you happen to live in a one-party consent state, feel free to hit 'record' on your phone before conversations. Let her voice do the heavy lifting for your documentation.
Credential Check: If she holds a professional license for her position, do a quick public records search. Is it current? Are there any disciplinary actions or past complaints? It’s always nice to know exactly who you’re dealing with.
The Golden Rule: Keep doing your job impeccably, document every single interaction with dates and times, and let her be the one who loses her cool.

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Itreallyisnoneoftheirbusiness.AsamanagerIrarelyaskorcarewhatthetimeoffrequestisforaslongasitisrequested2weeksinadvance.

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My boss does this. I take off regularly for appointments each month. Always at the same time. And he spins it that I'm the reason productivity is falling because I'm creating an "inconsistent schedule." Mind you, he's approving these absences, because I have a right to them as part of my benefits. And the other employees are drinking his kool aid on that one, too. Everyone gives me a hard time. Just gotta keep my eyes forward and remember that I gotta come first, not my job.

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None of their business indeed especially if you requested it in a timely manner. That manager needs a talk from Human Resources if you have one .

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If you’re NOT in healthcare, which would only inspire more questions, give the reason as anything below the belt. Think diarrhea, bathroom issues. Stops nosey people in their tracks.

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I am also having a problem with PTO. I have had a lot of devastating personal events happen this year, which led to me having to take some time off in March and April.

When I initially went to my supervisor in March about this, I was told, "you can bring your work with you, maybe this will help take your mind off things." This was PTO - paid time OFF, which I had earned, and which is supposed to be included as part of the benefits for employees. I felt this undertone of being expected to work during PTO was very inappropriate.

In April, this supervisor asked me why I was requesting time off, because she supposedly needed to know so she could "see if it can be approved." This I felt was none of her business, and it should not matter why I need PTO, nor should the reason make a difference for whether it gets approved or not.

We were then informed by this supervisor that all summer vacation and PTO had to be submitted by May 1st. I now have yet another situation where I may have to take PTO, and I did not sign up for this PTO by May 1st. How would you go about navigating this? I would like to be professional and request the time off appropriately. However, I am concerned that if I do, it will not be approved. I also am debating on just calling out, but may have restrictions and not be able to call when I would need to. I also do not feel right about calling out - but may have to anyway, if it is not approved.

Sorry this is so long; any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.

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As a manager, I never ask my team why, and if they have the leave (and even if they didn’t, leave without pay is always an option in emergency situations), it's theirs to take whenever they darn well need/want to. I'm sorry this is happening to you.

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Unbelievable

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If it is a P.T.O. day, you are legally covered if, like you, you requested the time off a month in advance and in writing. Kindly advise the manager.

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