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35.
I don’t think there’s any such thing as too young/old.
There are people who might be on the younger side of 35 when they make SM, likely due to being homegrown consultants.
In my case, I joined from industry and had to work my way up from Senior Consultant.
It depends on when you joined the B4. If you joined at 22, you could become one at 28-29. SM promos are like clockwork. Fastest vs the slowest is not going to be more than 2-3 years, again when and at what position you started at B4.
Manager 5 - Can you share your math on Partner breakeven calc? I’m relatively new to consulting, so the whole Partner track is still a little confusing.
I just passed my 1 year mark as a manager- highest possible review ratings, 80% from partners / similar seniority level. I was told by my counselor I was being recommended for promotion, which I’ve been told is unheard of after only a year at the firm.
That said, I politely declined it. Would rather be a rockstar that can be deployed on high vis high value clients than having to light my hair on fire chasing deals right now. Down the road sure, but I’m worried they are trying to move too quick.
I just turned 31.
Typically this happens when you’re hired at a level below expected. Make sure that this wasn’t the case for you, because you may be at the very top end of the salary band with the expectation that you’ll be revenue generating soon.
SM varies by firm. At PwC and EY it is level 4, at D it is level 5, KPMG doesn't have a SM level.
There is SM & D in consulting in the UK
52…but I’m an outlier.
Wow, 46, thought I m old
Would worry more about your own path and journey rather than arbitrary things like age, etc. At the end of the day, no one cares at the higher levels as long as you can do the job. (Or, hopefully you’re not stuck in a poor culture where others might try to take you down out of jealousy or norm to cut down high performers to size, etc. That is a thing unfortunately 😐 Would run as fast as possible if you find yourself in that situation. It will only make you worse over time and bring down your own performance.)
That said - as a client or even internally, am I going to hesitate to trust a 23 year old manager with any sort of responsibility? Yes definitely, they haven’t had enough life experience to be credible let alone consulting experience.
But it becomes less of a factor at SM level since it takes a refined skillset and varying experiences to get there in the first place and most are going to be in their early- late 30s, at which point ‘too young’ is a non-factor.
38 @ D, but it's equivalent to Director elsewhere.
A1 I just pointed out, again, that your SM numbers are wrong. You started talking about Ds in your first post.
That aside, and I understand Amazon has trouble recruiting these days despite raising their minimum to $15 an hour, but I did think some basic literacy test was part of the hiring process. At least now I know why I keep getting my neighbors packages.
Most SMs, even this year, when you add salary, bonus, any OPA or applause awards, remembering some SMs will be in the role for 6-7 years (and ignoring the specialist track which skews higher due to tenure) and not including things like 401k contribution would be in the 330 range and not 260. 260 would set the average base around 215k which may be a good pre Covid number but isn’t current. It’s a pretty easy number to look up in a comp spreadsheet.
Not sure why you are so hung up on what folks make at a different company. The SMs do really well, you should feel good for them. They really have outperformed the tech bros in the last 2 years which is why a lot of those folks are calling to come back.
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35+ because I am black!
Never with the attitude lmO
Age means nothing. I hit Sr. Manager in my mid 20s and Director in my late 20s. Should be Partner by 33.
O and run a fat side biz too
29 - if you have the maturity and skills, age shouldn’t be a determinant.
P2 -OP is asking about your equivalent to director
35 (with 10 years of relevant experience)
I was a college dropout, lost my job in the great recession, and had a child very young. It was a journey....
Sr Manage/Senior Director at 56, MD at 59
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I find SMs in the early 30s to be the most toxic.
33. Started in consulting at 26 after getting out of the Army.
Chief
31. Joined at this level after 9 years, coming from industry.
39. But I joined D at 35... After a career in the military
In EY I have seen 27 year old SMs with 4 years of work experience post MBA. 🤷🏽♀️
What a joke lol! Doubt they have the sufficient experience to be a SME at that level.
34
I made it at 32
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I made it at 31. Youngest I’ve seen is 28