Buy or rent? Looking at a $535k home in the Phoenix area with 170k combined income. Take home pay is around 9k a month. Currently have one kid who will be starting kindergarten next year and a baby on the way. We can get the house with zero down payment and no PMI (thanks to a physician mortgage loan). Cars both paid off. If we rent we’d have more to spend on fun things. If we buy, things would be tight for about a year while both kids are in daycare.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I’d always recommend buying over renting. Regardless of the interest rate, you’ll build equity and have an asset that appreciates in the long run. Renting on the other hand, is just you building someone else’s equity. A little more fun with extra savings from renting isn’t ever worth it.

like

This is such a superficial analysis of the pros and cons of owning vs renting I don’t even know where to start

What happens to your building equity if the market flatlines or declines for the next 3-5 years? Not saying it will but it’s not out of the question.

What if you need to move in the next few years for unforeseen family or job related reasons?

What if you actually invest the difference in monthly cost? What if you decide to take into account the often massive difference in maintenance and upkeep?

There are PLENTY of situations where it makes more sense to rent

like

Zero down payment is a trap and a very bad financial decision. It will make your financial situation way worse than it should be

If you can’t manage a down payment then rent

likehelpful

I have several zero or low down payment mortgages and they were the best financial decisions I’ve ever made….

Do you love the house? If so, I'd suggest buying instead of renting. You cannot do too much like traveling and stuff with an infant anyways.

like

from a pure investment point of view, renting is better than buying, historically the stock market outperforms housing, so rent + stocks is better than buy + mortgage + property tax + whatever, long term

people buy because of emotions, not based on math

funny

I'd love to see this math on this.

As A Wholesale Lender , i can recommend you to buy. You can always refinance down the road. We are expecting another rate hike soon and inventory is going fasted based on my conversations with my realtor partners in the Phoenix/chandler/Gilbert area.

New 1% down program was just launched and we are seeing alot of new buyers hitting the market.

At the end of the day, the interest rate you get is nothing compared to paying 2k to 3k a month in rent.

like

I would certainly buy however I might come down a bit on the price some but that’s just me.

The main question is whether you want to be there for at least 5 years. If you buy your options to move for a better job or promotion (or any reason) will be limited, especially putting 0% down. You’ll be under water for a couple of years at least before you could sell and break even due to sellers costs.

How is your take home $9k. I make $160k and my take home is precisely $7200, no exemptions on my W2, and I get nothing back on taxes.

oh it’s different filing status, missed that, yeah filing status makes a big difference, not just the marginal tax rate on the 10k difference

like

Would this be the first time you buy a home? You would be surprised all the programs for first time homebuyers. Some pay off part of med school, other companies give money towards down payment to live near your work. Google first time home buyer grants in your area, you would be surprised.

Related Posts

Recommendations for how to allocate 401k with Fidelity. Just switched jobs and have to move from Merrill Lynch to Fidelity

like

Would you prepay your mortgage (2.75%) or invest? Would you refinance 15 year or 30yr? I understand that over a long run, you can invest the difference and increase wealth. But it generally takes 10+ years to break even. What’s your reason NOT to do the 30yr mortgage?

like

Does anyone use a brokerage account instead of a checking account? Mine offers a fee free debit/atm card and free checks which I'd rarely use but starting to question whether it is worth maintaining my "big bank" checking account that requires a $1500 minimum balance.

I also have a local credit union checking/savings that I'd use if I need any services or to deposit cash and a HYSA that gets my paycheck, is used for mortgage and credit card payments, and to transfer to checking or investments.

What did you do with your RSU’s after it vested? Did you keep it or was it sold and reinvest to another stock/fund/etf?

https://yieldnodes.com?a=kR0zejgYmyoDrVm

Make 6-8% monthly passively

Yieldnodes is a server rental program, NOT a trading investment. It is not related to trading cryptos or currencies in any way.Participants' funds are used to set up servers that operate as masternodes and to stake small volume coins which allow those servers to partake in crypto network activities and generate more coins. The proceeds are shared 85% to participants and 15% to the program (the rental payment).

like

Any investors have insights into what you look for investing in a social media platform? Is this something you do or do not have interest in/why?

Background is development of a social media platform looking for a $100k investment to get off the ground in a great market with tons of opportunity and proof of concept.

like

How many think marketcap of cryptos will reach 700 billion or more before year end?

like

Has anybody invested on affordable housing in Gurgaon, India? Or got any insight for a first time investor.

like

How much household income should be to buy $1M house? Also what is the approximate down payment? I know 20% is the ideal but how much do people typically pay.?

likeupliftinghelpful

For those who cold call on 401k plans, what is your approach?

like

I am looking for a tool to help with determining how much money I will need monthly when I retire. Any suggestions?

I have a LOT of credit card debt. It has just grown over time and I can’t find my way out. I’m considering debt consolidation, specifically a company called National Debt Relief which seems legit but I’m just so hesitant because I’m scared to make my situation worse. Or a personal loan to pay off all the CC debt and then have a smaller all in one payment. I’m intelligent and I work in finance, it’s so embarrassing. HELP.

like

What's the best rent splitter online? Most accurate for sqft, etc?

Analysts seem to like TJX but looking at the long term debt/equity I can’t get comfortable. What am I missing?

like

What’s everyone using instead of Robinhood? I just learned of WeBull recently but am not sure it’s for me.

like

Any of you using TikTok to display your properties? I see it's working for some realtors and I am tempted to try.

like

I need help from an accountant or a financial analyst. I need to compare fed vs private company retirement and help me create a retirement plan. I will pay for the services. Thank you

like

For a 2-year associate now tasked with senior-like roles such as reviewing and training, does anyone have advice on how to review individual hnw tax returns?

like

Just checked my credit score and it’s an 835. Is it possible to ever get an 850? If so how? (Know it’s not impacting any of my loans, just curious)

like

Should I sell or hold Tesla considering it’s joining SP500? Right now my profit margin with it is around 110%.

like

More Posts

Bain & Company Hey, need a referral in BCN for an associate position. Can someone help me out pls?Bain & Company

Does anyone have anything to celebrate today? 🎉

like

Seeking input on entry-level salaries for grant writers! Please share with your location if you’re comfortable. TIA!

like

Can someone please brief about the health insurance scheme Cognizant provides for its employees and dependants? How much do we need to pay to upgrade it and what are the highest sum assured that is provided?
Cognizant

like

Hi Fishes,

I have YOE : 9 yrs in Dynamics 365 and my current CTC is 28LPA.

I wish to get insight from the community whether the package is good or I lagging behind?

like

please help me how to apply performance test engineer jobs in nagarro please let me know

like

I joined Nagarro in the first week of September and still haven't received my ADP credentials. In the email it was mentioned I'll receive it on 1st October. 😒 Nagarro

like

Hi there! I'm working on the data modeling assignment and looking for some tips for data mapping (how power query or vba can help). Thanks!

like

Anyone work for a MedTech, Pharma, or a Provider and want to throw a referral my way?

like
like

What should be the ideal salary of cloud/devops engineer with 12 years of exp and having exp of working for multiple e-commerce companies.

like

Want to move in the market for a Training Manager role or L&D role. What should be my ask?

I'm receiving low ball offers at 5l p.a. However, I'm looking for something at 10-12l p.a. Is it viable in the current market?

like

Hi guys,

Anyone from EY GDS KOCHI?

like

Hi Guys,

My joining date is Feb 1. When I will be eligible for the variable pay mentioned in the offer letter?

like
like

Best website to build a book....

What people in the industry genuinely think about the Goodstuph agency and the founder Pat Law?

like

Some days I feel like I’ll never be able to find love because I come from a complicated childhood, have a lot of problems and, I want someone who would understand me. But I don’t think I could ever open up to another person because it feels like I’m trauma-dumping despite this being a core part of my identity and I want them to know how I lived and survived til today. I feel like a nuisance

like

Why do people say more number of switches will create a problem in the long run? Ideally how many switches should be there. New in IT industry, just want some guidance.

like

Additional Posts in The Real Estate Bowl

Quoted a 30 year mortgage, 5% down for a ~600k home for 4% interest no points.

Profile: 250k salary, 800 credit score

Is this any good??

likefunny

Is it possible to give a real estate a budget you want to work with in terms of how much you’re willing to pay a month and see what they can get you?

like

This is the thread to boast about a creative deal that you made by using leverage and/or collateral.

like

I would like to learn more about development and real estate. Can anyone recommend any books or courses that you think are informative. Eventually I would like to own a few apartment buildings, but I know there is a lot I need to learn 1st. Any advice appreciated. 

like

Are most new houses being built with induction cooktop? What has everyone experience been like? I personally had non compatible cookware with induction cooktop and wondering if I should just buy a new cooktop (electric, gas etc).. Other reason is that I read that it's also not healthy due to electromagnetic waves?

like

For any of you real estate investors, what tools or sources did you learn from when getting started. Can’t find a mentor currently so want to find some highly recommended books or videos. If focused on the tri-state area (NY, NJ, Long Island mainly) that would be even better. My hope is to buy and rent out a apartment while also owning a house and house hacking that by renting part of it out. Trying to understand all the steps, traps, and how to find if it’s a good investment.

like

Atlanta vs Savannah vs Tampa?

like

I’ve been thinking about getting into real estate investing. Not right now but later down the road. I’ve been trying to save up for a down payment. What are some good resources for a beginner? Blogs, YouTube, books etc I’m not looking for paid courses because I will be learning at a slow pace. Any help will be appreciated.

like

How much should I invest in buying a HOME as my primary residence.

Current TC: 200k
Net worth: 300k, readily available 170k in stocks, hysa and cash
Current rent: 2000 per month
Age: 30

Wonder if anyone has any excel model or a rule to determine how much I can afford or should go for?

like

Home depot or lowes for kitchen remodel? Avoid ikea?

Whats the best website to compare neighbourhoods within your state? Combed thru Niche but looking for additional reviews of people who lived there

like

Is there any YouTube channels someone wants to recommend which are found to be authentic in terms of wanting to follow the current housing market updates? I’ll be a first time home buyer in the next 12 months.

like

Once all the boomers are gone will there be a gult of homes? I have rentals here will they be worthless in the future?

funny

Hi - any good books recommendations for getting started on real estate investing?

like

Hey hey all. I am writing a book on value creation in commercial real estate - from site selection to tenant management basically capture where industry experts see value lost or opportunities not captured. Anyone want to contribute to some insights ?

like

What are your opinions on financing furniture purchases? Most of the big stores are offering 0% for a few years and I’m wondering if there are reasons I shouldn’t do it

like

About to get a home improvement loan. Any recommendations for a lender? Also looking for general advice. TIA!

like

What are the mortgage rates you guys are getting? Best I’ve heard is 2.5% (30year fixed) curious if anyone has heard better?

like

Does anyone have experience with out of state turnkey real estate investing? Would you recommend any companies? I live in Sacramento where prices for real estate are inflated so I can't buy local.

like

I have a rental property and my tenant is asking me to change the fridge light burb. I live out of state and don’t have property manager locally. Is it bad if I ask them to change the fridge light burb themselves?

I’m pretty responsive for things they need help with like laundry machine got broken or pantry doors fell off. So I had sent people to fix those maintenance and repair issues.

But light burbs? Srlsy? They are grown up people (fresh out of college girls)

likefunny

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal