Can someone please explain what it means when an agency wants to hire you “freelance” full time rather than just “full time”? Why the freelance if it’s the same hours and the position is indefinite?

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Oh come on. If they’re after you, that obviously means they want to hang onto you for a while. Take the freelance offer and make extra money before they offer you a salary! Tell them you need several months of work guaranteed in writing. Quote a high day rate. Then become integral to the agency. Become indispensable. Then when they offer you, YOU COUNTER. YOU CASH IN. YOU LITERALLY HAVE A GIFT ON A SILVER PLATTER. WHAT ARE YOU EVEN ASKING US? SHOULD YOU WORK AT THE BEST AGENCY IN THE STATE? YES. SHOULD YOU TAKE THEM STRAIGHT TO THE BANK? YES.

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I think it means they’re wanting to try you out for the position versus commit right away. It’s also a way for them to avoid having to offer f/t benefits...

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No benefits or commitment--same hours and work.

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If you have a good full-time job now and they're the ones who've been chasing you, then you should be able to tell them directly that you're interested in joining if they make you a full-time job offer. Don't just accept their bullshit

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It means they dont want to pay for health insurance or a 401k. Theres probably some cap on the number of blah blah per month, or the budget for blizz blazz vs him ham.

Specifics are over our head, but the answer is 💰

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If it’s a WPP agency, they’re known for this. Especially because they have to report Q2 results in 6 weeks. Take the extra money and be happy about it

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@CW1 I hope I work with you one day. 👍🏼

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Why doe - they’re saying it’s to see if I like the position but...if it’s the other way around is it to simply measure performance? Why would an agency of this size give a fuck if they let someone go full time vs. freelance if benefits etc don’t kick in until after 90 days anyway? I’m conflicted because I already have an amazing job, but they’ve been after me - I didn’t even apply, and for weeks they’ve been calling, and now it comes down to the offer and it’s “freelance”. I wouldn’t even be considering it, but it’s the best agency in the state. v conflicting.

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Are they talking about a permalance position? You’re there as a “freelance” position but you’ll be working there without a contract end date.

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Mmmm. Him ham

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thank you for these amazing answers. v helpful, much appreciate

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Yeah, make thaaaat baaaaaaank while you can- then when they finally get room on the right spreadsheet, ask for a high salary because they know you're good, you know the accounts, and the team trusts you.

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Yes - no end date or contract

Yo, get that day rate and don’t ask questions.

@CD1 WPP actually has rules against allowing freelancers to work full-time for more than 9 months straight and they have strict FTE to freelance ratios they enforce to ensure freelance doesnt exceed a specific share of total billable hours. So, I'm not sure what you are referring to in your comment.

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