Company Culture is usually: “We’re family”… but when you negotiate salary, it’s not family anymore. Did you experience the mood shift when you asked for more?

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Whenever someone in a business atmosphere says it's all a big family, you can be sure that you're being played. That just means they'll be taking liberties and trying to take advantage of you left and right. Sure you can work nights and weekends, hey, it's for family!

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Sounds like a good way to manipulate someone. Sad

I feel like any workplace that says "we're family" immediately gives a red flag. It sounds like code for a lot of things like low pay, long hours, etc.

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I feel you are correct. But I don’t know how to respond to it. Just stay quiet?

I think THEY still think it's family, we just have very different definitions of what that means. To me, it's people I love to be around and would do anything for. To them, it's someone you can take full and complete advantage of. Most of my negotiations have taken place before signing an offer, not after, so this mood shift has't been quite as pronounced, though it's still noticeable when the convo shifts to numbers.

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That’s understandable since it’s expected that someone will negotiate at the beginning of a job (during the interview). It’s less often someone negotiates in the same position. At least, I’ve never done it.

Yes! It’s those places that are the worst about it. They want to be family as long as you are doing everything for them. Greedy family imo. If a place can’t recognize itself as a transaction in my life, probably best to move on as soon as I can.

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It seems harder to find open positions now a days. But you’re right

Yes, and in my case its we are family - but we don’t have the budget for increases this year. Then you find out some people are getting nice increases. They pick and choose who they want to give them too. I guess I’m like a step or adopted child in the family.

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That is quite sad when they play favorites.

I often do too. Normally it’s okay with me since I’m not part of the “family” yet but it is a great reminder that jobs shouldn’t be families

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Yes it is a good reminder! They’re for themselves.

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