Currently considering a cash out refi on a property we built in Texas but wanted thoughts on rates, etc. I’ve shopped around with 3 different lenders. FICO is 775 and base is 170K:

New construction Duplex
Property appraisal is 400K
Currently rented for $2850
Current loan is 200K
4.875 rate

New loan rate 7.123 percent
30 year term
Loan 280K
70K cash out
10K closing costs

Don’t really need the money but it would allow me to buy land and do another project.

Thoughts on rates, etc?

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Rate feels a tick high especially with the closing costs. I’d shop around.

Ignoring everything else. Why would you pay 10k up front to gain 70k? Look into HELOCs

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Yeah, that’s been the drawback. I have 2 more duplexes in the pipeline as is so I think I can hold off on buying more land right now with hopes of rates possibly dropping over the next several months or at least until the costs are cheaper. Thanks for the insight!

Did you see if you could just do a second mortgage vs cash out refi?

That’s awesome good luck with everything and again thanks a lot for the input it certainly allowed me to put things in perspective. Take care!

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Yeah definitely look into HELOC. A refi isn’t it right now. I was going to do the same but chose the HELOC route instead

Is this an investment property? Why not do 1031 - take the cash and dump it into your future properties.

Prefer to hold and not sell atm.

Look at a HELOC. Keep in mind the impact of changing the rate on the existing loan as it relates to the 80k that you are taking out.

Current weighted AVG Rate = 4.875%
New weighted AVG Rate after Refi = 7.123%
Weighted AVG Rate with an 8% HELOC on 80k = 5.768%

You could finance 80k at about 13% and still have a lower overall rate compared to refinancing the whole mortgage. HELOC would save you closing cost and allow flexibility on when you pull the 80K for the new project rather than having to take it all at closing like you would on a cash out refi.

Yeah, we have a ton of equity in our primary (probably almost 300K) however I wasn’t really planning on using it at the moment. I’ve had a few weeks to think about it and I think I’m am just going to wait it out as I’m in really no rush to touch the equity on the investment property. I think I’m just going to aggressively save over the next 6-8 months and I should have the cash I wanted to pull out. Will wait until these rates come down a bit..but I do appreciate your insight a ton Josh.

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