Currently working in-house for a large bio pharma - like the company and most of the people, but the work is really getting monotonous and I just leaned through the grapevine that I am making significantly less money ($15k to $30k) than others in the same level/grade as me. The work I do is equally difficult and I have a smaller team because people have left, so there is no way “type” of law justifies this. I think I just did a poor job negotiating my salary and raise. Any tips on what I can do?

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Out of curiosity, what is your salary? Would be helpful to know if you’re making near market is somewhere far below

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Thank you! I added details below!

Sorry for the typo in my original post. Yes, I am a woman of color making less than men and women in my department - some are more experienced than I am but not all. I went to a top 15 undergrad and top 20 law school. I worked in nonprofit law and biglaw. I didn’t clerk, but I interned for a district court judge. I am active in my company’s law department and organizational employee resource groups (“clubs” essentially) and also participate in mentoring programs (which required my department to sponsor me). Sometimes I feel like a token, doing so much work for the company and sure a lot of this will help me personally as well, but I need more money. I also live in an overpriced part of the country and - while married to someone who works - I have a child now who I want to have sufficient savings for. My current base salary is just under $180k. I moved in house for a more predictable work lifestyle (not necessarily less work), so I could be a parent who can show up for my child. I am this now - so that’s a huge success for me personally, but I left a salary that was more than double what I am earning now. I didn’t really care until I learned about my colleagues and started thinking - wow I think I am being fleeced. Then I went through an internal spiral and started thinking about cost of living, saving for school (or whatever) for my child, etc. I realize that I need to focus on just salary at this juncture and think about this other stuff later, but I am starting to feel super frustrated!! Thanks for letting me vent.

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I receive RSUs which are not vested yet and valued at $22k.

I also last received a bonus of $31k earlier this year.

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Are you a woman? Making less than guys?

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Yes I am! I added more details below.

When is your annual raise? Don’t ask for a raise, ask for a salary readjustment.

My annual raise will not take effect until next March, but I will begin my performance evaluation period soon -and it will continue until the end of year in two distinct batches.

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