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Sorry it didn’t work out for this summer, but chin up- lots of great opportunities for the summer and can come back next year for full time. Keep hustling!
stay in contact with your recruiters, have a great summer experience and a clear story as to “what’s different” in the fall, and reapply! But temper your expectations. Realistically, there are fewer spots in full time recruiting and so make sure you diversify your options going into it. Best of luck
In true consulting style, nothing youve said addressed the fundamental issue. The process is flawed and arbitrary
If you cant see the futility in a system with that kind of volatility and try to blame it on the candidates, alright. Id hope that would give you some pause though.
It frankly doesnt matter. The churn and pool you draw from means the process is irrelevant. It will self select anyway. Same with my old life in ibanking.
Greatly expand internships and probationary periods. Theyre the only real way. The current approach of tiny internship offers relative to total MBA classes makes no sense
Every study on the current interview model is very clear on its ineffectiveness.
There is a logistical problem with your proposed scenario, EY1. We don’t have the bandwidth to take on much larger intern classes without changing the work an intern will do. We give interns a full module that would otherwise be handled by a full time C/A; we can’t make up work/modules where they don’t exist. The only other option is to create synthetic modules and work streams that would not be representative of the actual experience, which: 1) would be more difficult to judge their actual ability to handle the job, and 2) would not provide the intern with a realistic view of the work, which is pretty critical in setting expectations so people are happy when they start full time. Not to mention the optics for the client or the strain on project management that would inevitably impact the effectiveness of the team. I get the process is not perfect, but don’t think hiring way more interns that were borderline in interviews is not the answer. OP- come back and kick ass next year!
Apply to replace BCG2, EY1 - I’ll staff you ;)
I’m saying today 10 people start full time in September today - there’s a glut of them and they sit on the beach
Why don’t 8 start full time in Sep and 2 start internship type things in Oct
As someone who recently interviewed a few similar profile folk, I’d say practice and come back full time. I have had a few friends stumble on internship interviews with inconsistent case performance but cruise through with more preparation.
Thanks for all the feedback. I must say BCG provided the most substantial feedback vs other companies.
Sorry. Was it the case that got you.
Many have been where you are now
Sorry friend. But real quick - you’re an Accenture consultant applying to an internship?
Ah gotcha. Sorry to hear that but this means another door will open
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Yup @PWC1
Sorry to hear that! I might have been your interviewer - was just doing R1 a few days ago. If it's any consolation, it can be HARD on our end to figure out who the best people are - my #1 candidate was my interviewing partner's #9 and vice versa. So good chance to make it happen at another firm
Also shows how stupid the process is.
I hope so, EY1 - I lived through an example where someone apparently interviewed really well and then was H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E as an intern and thought, “Why don’t we do this more?!”
Positive leverage. Jesus. The jargon. It hurts.
Youre shades of useless for 12 to 18 months.
Zero reason this cant be done.
How did you leap to 3 more summers on an individual case???
I didn’t either. Now I’m a PL. Reapply!
can you apply for an internship if you’re not in college?