Do all staff at Moss Adams get a salary increase after the first year? If so how much does it increase for staff out of the SF office?

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If you work at Moss Adams and you don't get raises every year, come over here and we'll split that fine referral bonus. Our salaries are already above Big4 and we have those sweet sweet overnight bonuses.

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I'm just saying that it doesn't happen like that in practice even though it makes sense theoretically. Although I'd also argue that people coming out of smaller firms are more proficient at more things because they're exposed earlier due to staffing constraints. While your audits are for larger clients, it could mean getting stuck doing one type of testing, whereas here you're performing a smaller audit but you end up covering more areas

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It's the quarterly bonuses we get for being overnight at clients. My last one was $750 :)

Oh that's cool.

What's a crowe Horwath?

I'm too busy applying to jobs that say "Big 4 Experience preferred" so I can get out of public accounting for lyfe

Let me know how many non Big 4 people you work with and get back to me, I'm sure it'll be none and the work you did was really worth it champ hahaha

Okay, so all else equal, do you think a potential employer would hire a big 4 or midtier/local firm professional? Assuming similar experiences, ratings, personality etc...

You'd actually be pretty disheartened by how little experience comes into play. They need just enough to justify it later.

Yeah and I can understand that. I realize fit/personality is the deciding factor. But removing that from the scenario - I think we can agree that 9 times out of 10 they would go with the Big 4 professional just based on prestige and the fact that most larger clients are already doing work with one or more of the Big 4

Your experience gets you the interview. Personality gets the job. My point is that to even get some of those interviews, you must have Big 4 experience. Not saying that it's fair or that big 4 experience is elite to mid tier, but that's just how it is.

Which is reasoning that's not uncommon to hear when the position is for something under 5 years of experience.

As a staff that can happen sure. At more senior levels we see all facets of the audit and provision. I would say if you're interviewing for a mid sized privately help company, your experience makes perfect sense. If we are interviewing with a F500 that is registered with SEC and traded publicly, big four experience makes sense.

Sure, super applicable experience like that can play into it, but the company you worked for is extremely low on the things employers care about. And Big4 aren't the only ones that service F500 companies.

Not an elitist by any means, at the end of the day we are all public accountants. I just think the company you work for matters.

And if you read the entire thread you'd see that I stated that i don't think Big 4 experience is elite to mid tier...

It doesn't.

Well, technically you started with a "what is a Crowe horwath"

Yeah, thats what we like to call a "joke". A shitty one admittedly. But a joke nonetheless..

First year raise**

OP, I was a staff 1 last year in the SoCal market with a developing rating and my raise was 10%. However I believe raises will be lower this year

Thanks everyone (:

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