EY🐟, do you guys know Deloitte has longer vacations (5 weeks/+2 for managers), tuition reimbursement for full time study, uncapped phone bills, and FREE cellphones? This is crazy

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Deloitte is a better company in that regard and is usually higher in the pecking order, all things being equal. So most people who have the option between Deloitte and EY will choose Deloitte as at the same level, Deloitte offers higher pay, better benefits, better tech and better training. It is generally more competitive to get a position there. None of this should be too surprising.

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OP - Deloitte is the consulting firm which didn't spin and makes more money from consulting than tax/audit. Deloitte and Accenture (Anderson) are the most established so they have more infrastructure, training and are just more developed.

It also has a well established technology practice that competes on service and performance other than cost like a Cognizant or IBM. They can do everything well in strategy through execution and implementation and focus on acquiring and retaining talent well through those benefits.

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@D4, I'll speak for K1 here (hopefully ok by K1). We do have 6+ weeks Director and above. MD and Partners unrestricted - obviously. Yes, you're able to carry a % of your PTO. This one major reason I stay at the Firm since my family and I take long vacations home (I'm from Ghana/Nigeria). I'm in MC / Strategy and it's not frowned upon.

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@DD1 - serious question: Do managers actually take 6 weeks off / year?

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I guess I should move to D

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Is your vacation "PTO" - ie all of your paid time including sick leave? Or do you also have vacation + holiday like pwc? Curious for comparison. Pwc is 3 weeks vacation + 2 weeks holiday. After 2 years, 4.4 weeks (22 days) vacation + 2 weeks holiday. Unprescribed sick days (aka whatever you need if you aren't abusing it).

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6 weeks vacation( M and above) + 10 days holiday

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D5, same experience generally though I have seen many senior managers move between at the same level and PPED's move over at equivalent levels. On the whole Deloitte will tend to bring EY employees in at a lower level which works as Deloitte has higher comp.

EY goes from staff to senior without a level in between where Deloitte has 3 levels before manager and people make manager younger at EY.

I've seen specific exceptions usually aligned to industry or M&A need but this is the general trend

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What's so toxic about Deloitte?

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@PC1 thanks for your insights! I know Monitor Deloitte must be very different, but I'm surprised Deloitte in general has much better everything than the other 3

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@op monitor Deloitte is just the strategy arm of Deloitte consulting strategy and ops. There isn't really a difference (other than potentially faster promos once you hit M) between monitor and the rest of s&o. Things are slightly different between tech and human capital and more different between advisory and consulting.
Consulting = Accenture & S&; Advisory = ey, Kpmg advisory.

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@D6 I used all of my PTO over the last 2 years and got a 1 both years. It doesn't count against you. Lengthy bench time, of course, does. I haven't been on the bench in 3 years.

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D4, Used to be 100% but 5 yrs ago changed to 50% 👎🏾 Any accrual above the 50% will be written off

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6 weeks for managers, and there is a cap on the phone bill if you can't justify it lol

@D5 - and sick time is outside of that? Or what is sick policy?

@PC1 we hire EY M2 as SC3 and EY SM1/2 as M2. I have not seen anyone coming from EY at the same level

@PwC2 sick time is included in 6 weeks. The policy is if you are sick for more than 3/4 days, take a short term disability.

@PC1 yes and now Deloitte is adding one more year to each level.. SC to M will be 4 years starting this

EY2 - that is the ideal trade off but it varies by practice area and for higher performers at EY, the challenge can come from not having depth and getting pulled too many ways.

At EY my experience was the 80/20 rule where 20% of PPED's and SM's contributed 80% of revenue. They often struggle to hand things off as there is often no one to hand off too.

@DD1: I have, and in your service line

I feel the same at EY NYC office. Idk if it's worse than Deloitte.

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