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I love being a people manager to people who don’t suck.
@D1: That’s exactly what I was wondering about the choice of being a people manager in traditional industries vs a product manager in tech
people managers for life
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I've had some ass employees and some good ones. I probably would not want to be a people manager if given the option.
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Yeah, and I have that experience. I think it also depends on the types of roles. Like, does a manager at a consulting firm count as a people manager? If they're leading a team of consultants? I can do that. But I don't love having direct reports that complain to me that the light tubes in the office is giving them a migraine because they're upset they lost their private office and now work in a cubicle.
At some FAANG, IC and M are parallel tracks with identical compensation so it depends what you want out of a career
Bcg1 is correct- we famously have an l11 ic tho
I don't think I understand why people think being an IC is a downgrade. There are high-level ICs. It really just depends on the org structure.
So to answer your question, I simply want to do the work I enjoy and that can look a lot of ways. As long as I'm competitively compensated and enjoy the work, it doesn't matter to me the job structure.
@G2, thank you so much for the explanation!
If as IC you can get the same compensation without additional burden of managing people, I am not sure why anyone would want to manage people. What am I missing?
America way overrates management roles. There needs to be tracks for experienced individual contributors besides “being a manager”. I’ve met some solid consultants who completely suck at management and building rapport.
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Management roles will continue to be overrated as long as people allow circumvention of process.
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I have asked mgrs and long time googlers a version this question in the past. At Google - a lot of people do "tours of duty" as individual contributors or people managers. People switch back and forth as a way of staying engaged. This is a foreign concept to Consultants as you have to be a MGR+ to go up the ladder there. At Google - you can go up the ladder in either role (its probably easier to be a techy and go up the ladder actually).
I’d love to be an individual contributor for a good manager forever, hate managing people but I can get stuff done