For people managers, will you choose to downgrade to individual contributors at FAANG or continue being a people manager in traditional industries (e.g., finance, healthcare)?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I love being a people manager to people who don’t suck.

like

@D1: That’s exactly what I was wondering about the choice of being a people manager in traditional industries vs a product manager in tech

like

people managers for life

like

I've had some ass employees and some good ones. I probably would not want to be a people manager if given the option.

like

Yeah, and I have that experience. I think it also depends on the types of roles. Like, does a manager at a consulting firm count as a people manager? If they're leading a team of consultants? I can do that. But I don't love having direct reports that complain to me that the light tubes in the office is giving them a migraine because they're upset they lost their private office and now work in a cubicle.

like

At some FAANG, IC and M are parallel tracks with identical compensation so it depends what you want out of a career

like

Bcg1 is correct- we famously have an l11 ic tho

I don't think I understand why people think being an IC is a downgrade. There are high-level ICs. It really just depends on the org structure.

So to answer your question, I simply want to do the work I enjoy and that can look a lot of ways. As long as I'm competitively compensated and enjoy the work, it doesn't matter to me the job structure.

like

@G2, thank you so much for the explanation!

like

If as IC you can get the same compensation without additional burden of managing people, I am not sure why anyone would want to manage people. What am I missing?

like

America way overrates management roles. There needs to be tracks for experienced individual contributors besides “being a manager”. I’ve met some solid consultants who completely suck at management and building rapport.

like

Management roles will continue to be overrated as long as people allow circumvention of process.

I have asked mgrs and long time googlers a version this question in the past. At Google - a lot of people do "tours of duty" as individual contributors or people managers. People switch back and forth as a way of staying engaged. This is a foreign concept to Consultants as you have to be a MGR+ to go up the ladder there. At Google - you can go up the ladder in either role (its probably easier to be a techy and go up the ladder actually).

like

I’d love to be an individual contributor for a good manager forever, hate managing people but I can get stuff done

like

Related Posts

Relocating to Columbus, OH area. Would prefer to transition to Independent. Have over 5 yrs as lead advisor experience and cfp. Could probably transition 4-5m and help with existing book.

like

What's the best 529plan? Heard Vanguard Nevada plan is popular due to low fee, or NY state one gives tax benefits upto $10k (but not sure if it matters for NJ residents working in NYC). What's the criteria for deciding 529?

like

Are most companies paying for you to learn new skills? When acquiring new skills are you mostly self taught? What are your best go to sites for learning animation or video skills? Trying to gauge the norm on expectations for new hires who need to know everything from print, web, video, social and animation. Can you do it all?

like

What makes the most sense if you are trying to become a data scientist? Working at Accenture as a digital analyst or going to a startup and take an offer an junior data scientist? Can’t decide!

likehelpful

Hi Folks,

Out of Lowe's and Maersk, which company would you recommend from a product Management career perspective?

like

Recommendations on the best podcast, book, or other medium to learn more about “entrepreneurship through acquisition”?

like

How do I start preparation for big companies like MAANG?
I want to know what learning path should I follow. I know about lots of resources but can't follow them randomly.

likeuplifting

What do I do if my manager is ultra super micromanaging, she just called me out on an extra space in an entry in an analytical graph I created😱 not a big deal to me but she said it was unacceptable. Like idk what to do, I need the job and I’m still missing a long time to make the pivot to another company😩

likefunny

Please tell me how is insurance vertical in coforge@

like

I am considering uprooting my family and moving to TN for a better quality of life. I am having one heck of a time trying to find a new job while states away, while working full time. Does anyone have any pointers? The thought of this move makes me wish I could just quit now.

like

Have an internship next summer in a vertical I don’t want to work in and is completely unrelated to where I want to end up. However the firm is strong in PE. To try and break into that side after my internship at the same company, would it be more beneficial to take on a (very small boutique) PE internship or an IB internship this fall?

like

Hey fishes,
Recently I got a call from an HR for AMS- Salesforce technical support- associate role. Any idea , what kind of work will be there and will it have any learning scope. I am having a doubt, since it is mentioned a technical support. Please let me know.

like

Just got another rejection... Is exiting to FAANG or MB really this hard? Trying to go tech.. or mbb, but not getting anywhere. I have 2 masters (mba, ms) from top schools, been in consulting for over 10 years, I am confident that I know my stuff well..but still I keep getting rejected. Interviewed with Google, Amazon, Cisco, McKinsey, and a few others and every-time there is something that is not a match... are the hiring managers looking for like 100% match? That will never happen!!!

like

I joined 6 months ago as a L5 manager. I like my team but don't enjoy the work. I also feel I was down levelled at the time of joining. Should I wait 6 months and move internally? How easy is internal mobility especially if I were to target a L6 role? Would applying outside be wise ?

like

Do pharma agencies intentionally over-promote / inflate titles so you’re stuck and not really qualified to leave?

like

Kuch tareef kardo deloitte india ki .. I have heard so much negative that there is no wfb here .. planning to join this. Apart from salary what else benefits we get here like shift allowance and what about hikes ?

like

SC to M, promotion in CBO.

I was promoted to SC in Aug 2020, and milestone year shows 2024 (4 years).

Is this normal I thought SC-M was 3 years and 2 for an early promo.

Can anyone suggest if it's even possible to try to get promoted in 2 years? Just don't want to put in extra effort and getting disappointed later.

like

Anyone have experience lateraling from a no name boutique that doesn't do much modeling? I learned modeling from BIWS but just don't really do it at work. Any tips?

like

Hi fishes,
I'm 22 and planning to take a life insurance. I'm comparing all policies and max life seems attractive as it has good claim settlement ratio and less premiums. But there is no office near our area. My worry is that if there is a need to claim in future, it can be done all online by my nominee? Is it recommended to take policy online in any platform(like policybazaar)?
Other options I'm considering are SBI life, HDFC life which offices are available in my locality.
Please guide

like

Any good business/consulting books on amazon kindle that y’all have read that has helped you in your job?

like

More Posts

Finally picked these up after a year in storage

Post Photo
like

Very specific to retail and/or hospitality in-house roles: has anyone found a good solution for predictive scheduling? Our retail division has one set of software for scheduling and one for payroll, and neither of them can handle predictive scheduling compliance issues unless they’re used for both the scheduling and payroll functions. I’m coming up empty on ideas for them to bridge the gap, but I’m also new to my compliance counsel role, so I would be overjoyed if anyone has suggestions.

like

what are your average weekly hours?

like

As you grow with your company and take on more responsibilities, delegation becomes MANDATORY to be effective in your role.

Just don't confuse delegation as an excuse to get away from tasks while you don't work on anything important. Rather, use it to grow efficiently by working on the most important tasks while others help you.

Post Photo
like

Accenture strategy folks.. can someone confirm if work from home is about to end?

Anyone here from Accenture Operations?
What is the avg hike % in Base Pay?
What is the avg Variable Pay out %?
Level 9 & 8.

like

Hi all..I got offer from JP Morgan Bangalore and UBS Pune with same CTC. Can someone help me which should I join ?

Can someone at UBS help me to get referral for M365 SharePoint
Job reference 247978BR
Please dm me.

Post Photo

I’m interviewing for a marketing manager role at a company based in SF. I’m genuinely excited about the role and the company but we’ve yet to discuss salary. I expect to be asked at some point, but my research has given me a VERY broad range. So I’m here to do a bit more research. I’ve got 5 very relevant years of experience and will have an associate manager directly reporting to me. Are there any marketers out there who can share their salaries in similar regions and experience levels?

like

What are the best consulting firms for pricing (consumer goods focused)?

like

Interviewing for a Manager position with PwC. What realistic salary range should I be entertaining? Current salary + bonus is around $130K.

like

My background is in tech transactional. I joined a cybersecurity SaaS startup at the end of last year and now also handle more generalist matters in addition to all things commercial-related. I have a number of books on contracts that I’ve found super helpful over the years (The Tech Contracts Handbook, A Manual of Style for Contract Drafting, Sign Here, etc.). Can anyone recommend books they’ve found helpful for L&E matters, privacy matters, product matters, or marketing/advertising matters?

like

Hi SGians/Fishes...I have still 29 days remaining to join SG and got a better offer letter ...I am double sure about joining SG only....does SG re-negotiates after accepting the offer letter.??

I recently found out I was “promoted” or giving a higher title, same pay. I was told HR was updating employees titles based on the work they do… Is that even a thing?? My mid yr review is coming, should I just ask for more money?

like

I am having 2 years of experience as windows and VMware admin. currently serving the notice period.
Can someone suggest what all the companies to look for job opportunities for better growth

like

Hi Fishes,

How are the mulesoft opportunities in salesforce ? What type of work is done in mulesoft role here .
Is it like working for clients and providing them business solutions using mule or solving tickets raised in mulesoft forum related to the product ?

TIA

Hi Fishes,
I have joined Salesforce past week, Can anyone suggest which cloud to join (Sales, Service or Experience cloud).

Thanks

Hey folks, hope you’re all having a not-so-blue Monday. I’m new to EY and was wondering if the firm does annual raises? I joined as an SC and wondering if my base salary will be adjusted annually by a fixed % for inflation or a variable % based on performance? Or if the only way to increase my base pay is to get promoted to manager? Thanks for your help!

When does HCL pay annual bonus? Which month?

like

Hi friends, I got non billable project in CT they told that they took for temporary. Please let me know the disadvantages in non billable project.. help me to go ahead with this project or stay in talent pool itself

like

Additional Posts in Consulting Exit Opportunities

Anybody have a good enterprise rental car code?
Also curious if anyone has one that allows a waived different location drop off fee

like

Do you tell corporate industry recruiter how much you currently making if asked (and stressed on knowing). I told them the number then also said I want at least 10-15% bump from that #, sounds like...

Interested in hearing from anyone who jumped from consulting to an AD or D position in med comms / marketing or medical affairs role, in a pharma / biotech (not agency).

How have you found the new role, transition, WLB & TC ?

like

Hi 🐟 s,

is there a way for tech consultants to become partner ? i am sure there would be but what would be the fastest ? is the bowl reckon quick shifts or sticking to the way on top .
love to know if there are any experiences .

like

Mulling over an offer to join Industry (Banking) - salary match at VP level (10+YOE) + discretionary bonus (FO role) + better WLB. Not seeing a path to promotion at current firm (rejection for multiple years with no specific/satisfactory reason provided - met delivery + sales KPIs - bad managers/backers). Thoughts?

like

33 year old with MBA thinking about a career change from financial services consultant to certified financial planner. Any advice?

likesmart

Can anyone comment on WLB for associate director / director roles in pharma?

like

Have a telephone screening with the hiring manager for a Sr Product Manager at Amazon. Can anyone explain what type of interview to expect in the call?

like

Any advice (besides good GMAT) on how to get into a top MBA post consulting? Im a public sector consultant.

like

Anyone that’s jumped to IB as an analyst, pre-mba. How did you go about networking an interview ?

like

I sent my resume in PDF to the headhunter. He put it in Word, reformatted the sections, changed some languages, sent it back to me for my review. Then he set up a call with me to go through all possible questions I may be asked in the interview, and give me sample answers. Now I’m confused

like

Going into final round/loop interview with Amazon and nobody has asked my TC expectations or told me the target for the role yet. Is that standard? Is there a chance one of the loop interviewers will ask me about it?

like

Interviewing at so many places and often get dinged at final rounds. Hoping and praying for the right one to work out.

like

Hi Fishes,

I will we interviewing with Salesforce for the position for Customer Intelligence Analyst position. Could anyone please guide me with the interview process and difficulty level.

like

WWYD?
I exited earlier this year, and my first few months were brutal for a variety of reasons owing to org changes amongst other things. I’m now close to an offer with another company, and feel torn about leaving so soon. Details in comments

like

Any ideas about the securities technology audit associate role in an investment bank? Work life balance, salary range, career prospect? I’m an IT consultant with 3 years of experience. Will it be a wise move? Please share your thoughts, appreciate it :)

PE operations: What’s the story on Vista Equity Partners’ internal consulting group?

How much do they just run their “best practices” playbook, vs. work on unique value-creation initiatives?

How far in advance of when you want to leave should you start talking to recruiters?

like

What books would you recommend for someone wanting to get better at sales?

like

During interviews, how do you talk about the “result” or “impact” of a consulting project you were on? I know how to talk about the problem/recommendation portion of a sample project but the result/impact, I mean, as consultants we don’t see recommendations executed and actually generating results. So how do you talk about it?

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal