For those who left public accounting over the years, what needs to change for you to remotely consider going back?

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I actually really loved the teams I was on, the work in tax is actually enjoyable. Nothing I loved more than having a queue of tax returns to just plow through. If I could be a perpetual preparer remote for 100k a year never working over 45 hours a week and 10% bonus and 7-8% 401k and you’d have me for years.

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I could think of a lot of things I love more personally

Busy season. My busy season lasted from November until end of June. Other than that, I loved public accounting. The pay was lacking a bit but nothing outrageous

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Staffing - busy season lasting from November to Memorial Day is outrageous

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Pay or hours. I don’t even need both, just one would probably work

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No SM1 anywhere makes less than 150k lol

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Busy season. I don’t think any amount of money would get me to go back and ensure those hours now that I have a family

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Money of course

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Just money. The teams I worked with were great and the work was mostly tolerable

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Still in public but want to leave mostly due to busy season.

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Uggh just made the mistake to come back 55 chargeable hours started this week mandatory , why did I do this to myself.

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I’ll go back to public accounting if they pay me $200k+ or if I can work 50 hours max

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Better leverage. In other words, more resources available so that as a senior manager or partner I can spend more time with clients on consulting rather than ticking and tying.

+ much lower charge hour goals

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I only do public as a contractor so I can get the OT.

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I would have stayed if hours were better but now I wouldn't go back unless that and the pay improved

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Pay, benefits, hours, 100% remote. I interviewed for a senior role that offered the same base pay that my a coworker I worked in public with was offered as an manager with 2 years experience at a new firm. Lastly, I worked for 3 public firms and the lack of diversity is another reason I will never go back.

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I'll consider going back when PA is not always resource starved. This doesn't require higher salaries. I believe PA salaries are already quite high.

They just need to mass hire. I mean mass hire to the point where everyone is now doing 20 hours/week during off-season. Not having enough seniors or losing my best seniors is absolutely unacceptable.

Alternatively, schedule only 30 hours/week of work per person, including busy season without possibility of adding to it within a 1-month period. Scheduled hours tend to be underbudget. Then you add one-off and "urgent" projects - I'm now way overbooked.

Guess what? The alternative can only exist if you... you guessed it.... mass hire.

So... mass hire.

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I went back in 2015 because I wanted to move to a small town and there wasn’t a lot of work from home in those days.

It started out not so bad, small town public hours weren’t as terrible until COVID.

Starting at a new remote small firm Monday that is doing 50 hour tax seasons! Can’t wait!

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They would have to at least match the hours that I have now, exceed the pay I have, plus be fully remote. I doubt any firm would offer me all 3.

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Staffing, hours & compensation

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I hear alot of people talking about money. I have read here some Big 4 firms gave 3 raises last year.

People will always want more money. It’s human nature.

Hours, I’m willing to take a paycut to not deal with those hours.

Better coaching/training which I think would be possible if busy season wasn’t 6 mths of the year

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