Has this whole thing changed anyone’s perception of advertising and left a bad taste in your mouth? Not gonna lie I swing between a state of bottomless despair and ... well ... another state of bottomless despair about twenty times a day. Where is the exit ?

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Nah, I’ve always hated this business.

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I’ve gotten old, but what’s helped me lately is doing some respectable work for good grateful clients and surrendering the idea that this is NOT a career. It’s taken me 32 years to realize it’s a job. Nothing to aspire to.

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Thanks this really helped.

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I just know every time I tell people what I do when they ask their response is, “ooohhhhh cool”. The tone is trying to “be polite”. Yeah everyone hates what we do.

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Usually people go « Ahhh cool! » when I say I’m an Art Director and then go « Hmmm! » when I say in Advertising haha

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Why do so many people here stay in a job or industry that they hate?

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Exactly, Havas 1! And I can tell you’d be a hit over there. Let me know if you want me to cut in a good word for you.

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Hi! I started at a new company 2 months ago and while I’m really enjoying my job so far, I’m having a hard time gauging whether or not I’m doing a “good job.” My role seems to be always evolving, which is fine and I actually enjoy being a support to the greater marketing team, but I feel like I need better defined targets to make sure I’m meeting expectations. Also, when I ask my boss what they’d like to see, I don’t ever get a clear answer. (Cont’d in comments)

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Was told I’d only have one round (4 interviews), each split 50/50 on case/behavioral. This is for an Associate position and will be interviewing with AP/P/SP level. Is this typical? Since I see most people have multiple rounds.

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Is anyone willing to provide a referral to McKinsey please?

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I have an interview for a financial advisor at TD any tips would appreciated on nailing this interview. Please also tell me about negotiatiating a reasonable salary for the position

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What are some recommendations for getting out of the SDR role and where can you go? Typically takes 18 months to become an AE but spending each day making 80+ cold calls is not very fulfilling. Asking on behalf of a friend.

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Looking for a job change.. plz suggest if there are any openings..
Skillset: .Net Full Stack developer, YoE: 6 yrs.

I've done so well in this new role within the company that they are hiring another person to assist with what I do. I've voiced to my boss that I'd like to manage this department and they indicated that this is the thought for the future. Now they are asking me to train this person while I have my plate full. Is it wrong for me to expect either a promotion or to be paid to train this person?

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A director in another unit wants to meet me to “continue a conversation we started last year”. He is referring to the time I had asked him if there were openings on his team. That was over a year ago. I am not too happy where I am right now ( I stayed where I was). I also don’t know if he really has an opportunity or if this is just some corporate circle jerk where my current director is trying to “smoke me out”. I don’t speak poorly of my team/work. How would you approach this conversation?

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Hi, Deloitte Digital is hiring for the following roles. If you are interested, please DM me. Deloitte

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Right so here’s a bit of a dilemma I work to a much higher standard at home and it’s this high standard that means I’m in line for a promotion. I’ve grown so much and I feel really strong in my role I’m also busier than ever. The problem is we’re going back into the office and I don’t want to go in if it’s just going to be senior management in asking me to get them lunches for client meetings or fetch a glass of water and cutlery for meeting rooms. Definitely not ready to go back to that….

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I applied for a position through a recruiter and made it through the interview rounds with the actual company and received a verbal offer, but haven’t heard back since. Am I able to reach out directly to HR for updates or does all communication have to be filtered through the recruiter?

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I have over 12 years in B2B sales/sales management experience along with a graduate degree. I am wanting to shift gears and I am at a point where I can invest time in myself to learn through practical experience. The new industry I am wanting to pursue is real estate investment. I have read all the books but want some hands on experience on the property management side. How could I best leverage my skills for a role in this, and what should my expectations be for negotiation in compensation?

Hi fishes,

Trust everyone is well !
I'm actively looking for a suitable opportunity ( Senior QA Automation Tester) in Singapore which can provide Visa sponsorship as well.
By any chance, does anyone have references in Singapore? I would be available immediately to join the organisation.

References will play an important role in the case of Foreigners in Singapore.
Thanks in advance.

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What is it like to work in a core immigration role at infosys Bpm.

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I have an interview with JP Morgan this week for a Channel Marketing Manager - VP role in the Asset Management area. The role will be based in NYC. Just curious what is the normal range for the base salary and total comp.

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Does location matter if you work at the IRS? For instance is it better (experience wise) to have the same position in DC vs NYC?

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Who works in Monitorships and Investigations? I want to learn more about this role.

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Anyone hiring in PHX looking to leave BCG and start a new role next year.

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iManage can kiss my ass. It shouldn’t take me 5 minutes to open a document.

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Should I shave my beard for MBA interviews?

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Does a 20 year long career at Deloitte hold much value in the marketplace in light of the current economic situation? Started as a change leadership Consultant, but ultimately spent majority of my career in Resource Management and Global Mobility.

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'An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Use of Police Force' by Roland Fryer

Link to study:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force

Some bullets:

- Blacks 53% more likely to experience any use of force relative to 15% for whites
- All controls available, officers 46.6% less likely to discharge firearms before being attacked if suspect is black.
- Black officers are more likely to shoot unarmed whites, relative to white officers.
- Blacks are 21% less likely to report voluntary interaction with police than whites.

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How likely is it to be staffed on a DD in the ME region? I see they are quite rare and mostly concentrated on a few consulting firms, but would like your opinion

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I have an interview with EY for Associate Product Manager position in Consulting. Any tips would be helpful. It’s first round and hopefully more after. Thank you for your help and suggestions.

Hello Fishes,
I have an offer from Deloitte USI for Assistant Manager role.
In the interviews they precisely mentioned the role is for "SAP Solutions Architect" and not a normal SAP development role.
Can you please help me with what generally Assistant Manager tasks in Deloitte USI are?
Any details or inputs are helpful.
Note : I have 7 yoe, currently Application Development Specialist at Accenture.

Hi fishes, do qualifications like B.E, BCA or BSC decide the CTC?

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Considering part time MBA, are non m7 schools worth it if I want to choose tier 2 schools for cheaper tuition? Im already approaching 8 YOE working wise.

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Have 50k in brokerage to put towards buying a place in Atlanta. Young 20 something who's lease is ending soon

Roth IRA and 401k are well funded but don't want to pull from there.

Should I buy and rent the extra bedrooms to friends, or stay renting and put savings in stock market?

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Has anyone moved from antitrust private practice to a non-antitrust in-house role? If so, what kind of role?

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What would be a good salary range in CAD for a Group Manager in Avanade Canada? This is in the data and Analytics domain with 8 yrs experience as a senior Data Architect

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Any guys have a good recommendation for a barber in the city? Seems like most of the places downtown are upwards of $40. Just looking for a homie who does a good job. Happy to pay that much if they’re solid, but will be bothered if they’re not.

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What is the difference between financial due diligence (FDD) and delivering deal value (DDV) at PwC?

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@Long-time creative freelancers, please enlighten the masses about why you might make a better staff hire than say, someone with nearly all staff role experience. Help clear up this weird prejudice.

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Is how nicely the deck is designed really that important?

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Anyone else feel like avoiding all these spots before the super bowl is an extreme sport? Maybe it’s just me, but I want to see them at game time... reading ahead takes all the fun out of it for me.

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Can you tell / sense that you’ll get the job after an interview?

I’m like 50/50

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What is your agency’s maternity or paternity leave policy?

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Is it a reflection of your performance or the employer? What are the pros/cons of being contracted? Thanks!

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Going in for an interview I'm not sure I'm qualified for. I would work harder and try harder than anyone else. How do I find the confidence before the interview to know I'm worthy?

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Does anyone still play video games? Guilty pleasure, but sometimes feel a bit immature doing it

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When my non advertising friends complain about their 50 hour work weeks

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Getting pushed to do account work as a PM is making me want to scream. And the bullshit let's align on PM expectations meetings when I'm doing my job is driving me up the wall. I'm doing my job....YOU aren't.

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Do you think remote hires are less safe when layoffs come or is that an old school mentality?

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