Hi 👋. I posted here a few weeks ago about being nervous conducting a PIP conversation with my team member.
I did it this week and let me just say it was the weirdest conversation ever. The guy is usually argumentative and tries to disprove every bit of feedback. But this time he just sat there and asked no questions and said nothing.
Maybe he’s looking for new jobs already - don’t mind this at all and this would be a good outcome for him overall.

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Are you that dense? Maybe he’s just shocked by the news lol

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Are you serious? He was told weeks in advance that PIP is coming (our hope was he would find a new role himself and not get into pip which would look bad on his file).
So combative lol

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The fact that you were nervous and thoughtful about the conversation demonstrates your leadership ability as a manager. The dude probably knew he had run out of leash. Don’t give it too much thought.

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I wouldn’t feel bad - sounds like it was fact based and objective feedback. Part of the territory of managing people unfortunately - sometimes you have to have difficult conversations because that is what is best for the team and for the individual in the long run.

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Coincidentally, I had to have a similar conversation with one of my direct reports this week. Not a PIP, but a drop in performance rating needed to be explained. They previously displayed traits like what you were describing (argumentative, denial, excuse making etc) but this time just wrote down the feedback, claimed to not remember a lot of what I was describing and was relatively quiet otherwise. I suspect the tangible outcome of evaluating their performance (PIP in your case, drop in rating in mine) makes it more real and sometimes irrefutable. Just my two cents 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Oh well there you go - best behavior when HR is around, no wonder they weren’t reacting perhaps how they normally would have

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