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I generally hit 55ish during busy season. We work off of pools and have a review pool anyone can pull from. Hitting 55 during season isn’t an issue. Outside of season I generally hit 20 tops as I’m focused on all the other non charge stuff everyone has mentioned earlier
Seems doable during busy season. Usually mine will be closer to 40 or so and then 55-80 for a couple weeks to make up for lighter weeks.
I’m not a guy and two weeks of overtime shouldn’t ruin a marriage.
Enter at least 11 hours per day on your time sheet.
Better question, why are you billing 55 hours as a manager?
Are sure it’s billable and not total hours? I typically do about ~50% billable to client and the remainder to BF and Admin stuff.
I would consider leaving that firm. A manager should be focused on learning to build client relationships, review/quality control and overall management of projects. That’s not 55 hours a week.
Why jump? I don’t understand your concern. Should the firm be paying you a salary, provide training, provide benefits, but not expect you to work? Like how do you think there is money to pay you, pay for all of your benefits and training?
Just don’t. Work 50 - bill 45. Watch your bosses squirm.
This is the way
Mentor
Why would you want to achieve this? Can’t you go outside and do fun things like maybe fly a kite or ride a bike?
Sounds like a lot of billable hours for a tax manager.
Try to line up tons of reviewing, and review around 9 hours a day for six days. Might be doable since it’s a busy tax season for many.
Find a big memo or step plan to work on with a huge budget and lots of research and fact-finding required.
Keep offering yourself up. Don’t burn out or overwhelm yourself with too much work or too many deadlines. Good luck and Godspeed.
Community Builder
Thanks, I will do my best.
I like the 11, 11, 11, 10, 9. Work week. Means I do a little Saturday/Sunday work. And I front load. Makes Thursday’s and Friday easy to get out for dinner or dates.
Coach
Not sure what firm or tax group you are at but that sounds high. Let me know if open to trying out other firms
I’ve had to clock >60 hours all through the year being a tax manager & there is always work for more. Strange to see comments that even 55 are too much for a manager. How is that possible ?
Apparently the work volume is just too much & overall lack of resources isn’t helping either.
Last week billable hours were 85. Cant wait for 9/15 😢
I do 11.5, 12, 12.5, 12, 9, 3-7, 3-7
Are you at CRI? That sounds a lot like their busy season(s) billable hour requirement and it was applicable at all levels. It makes no sense to require that of a manager. You need a lot of work in the pipeline during the entire busy season to meet that, and preferably something you are preparing yourself.
Also consider that your colleagues at your level who say they’re doing 55+ could simply be lying.
I am at CRI and you are definitely right about that. With all the non-billable work required at the manager level it’s a lot more total hours to get to 55 when compared to staff or senior.
Just do 40 chargeable hours per week in peak season and have 5 admin hours plus 10 PD hours for a total of 55. You will be 100 percent chargeable with 15 hours per week of OT. No one will be able to bother you.
PwC awm requires at least 55 billable hours from associate through SM during busy seasons
Agreed. I’m out of awm as of September 19. I can’t wait
Are you a new manager who potentially does experienced senior level work? Or do you work directly with associates? Then, 55 sounds about basic..
I’m a Director (supposedly) and I have been at 60+ per week since January. Where do you work so I can apply?
Sounds like any asset management group. We have partners reviewing from India teams due to lack of resources
Sad. I've been coasting in audit with 40 or less of real work for the past 10 weeks.
Depends on how many days a week you are willing to work but if you work 4 hours on Saturday and 3 on Sunday that’s 7 already. That way during the week you can only do 9.5 and still make the 55 hours. Also, when I first started my manager gave me a tip, anything that takes him 10 mins or more gets rounded to a half hour. This helps make up for any downtime
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