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If you ruined your chances, so be it. That just means something better is on the horizon. If they won't share comp, in my experience, then it probably isn't even worth your time or energy.
You didn't do anything wrong by asking. Some recruiters and hiring managers simply choose to be offended over candidates asking for clarity on the only reason they work in the first place. We aren't looking for jobs as a hobby, we are looking for jobs in exchange for money, and we should be able to know without issue what kind of money we are looking at.
Exactly this, I was encouraged to go for an interview with a company who didn't give their salary/benefits package details, got a second interview, the manager I would have been working for was excited to have me come onboard. Then their HR said they couldn't match my salary and benefits expectations and gave the role to someone else. That person lasted 3 months before their old company ",bought," them back. Then HR had the cheek to contact me and told me they'd match what I wanted.. told them no, if I wasn't right and worth it the first time around I didn't want to join them.
Never asked how much you pay always wait for them to ask what is your desired pay?
I think money should be brought up towards the end of the interview. Find out if you feel your skillsets align with what the company is requiring. An interview isn’t just for the employer but both sides need to feel that the job and skillsets and job requirements fit for the employer and employee. If that is settled then money comes into play. Negotiating money is an art form. It’s a dance with the BEST possible outcome is that each side is open to fair negotiation and competitive pay. Always do a search on what the job role you are interviewing for…. Find low, medium, and high pay scale for the position! Then there is your experience level. If you’re applying for an entry level position you may not have as much to negotiate with as others who have decades of fact driven experience! There are so many people applying for 1 job posting. Do what you can to stand out
Yes, compensation discussion at the end of an interview and honestly, I sometimes dont even ask, because they will get around to compensation eventually if you make it through their process and again honestly I know people interviewing may not want to hear this, but somehow employers feel that the applicant focusing on compensation too much is pushy and a turn off or out of desperation. I don't know, but my outlook is if you need a new job take it and if you feel they "lowballed" you with their offer look for something better while your generating income at a job. It might just be me, but my "laid back" approach to compensation and focusing on being the right person for success in the role again while "coming off" as interested in the role and feeling my background, historyand experience "speak for themselves", but knowing you cant control what interview decision makers will decide if they want you to "come on board" a d make you an offer.
LPN pay rate 30$ hr
Non- negotiable
More work less money.
I frame it as " In an effort not to waste your time or my time and to be sure we are both aligned, would you please disclose the salary for the role before we get into an in-depth interview?"
I have sat through half hour screenings before only to find out that the salary was an insult compared to my experience level and current compensation. You would think they would not want to waste their time interviewing you only to tell you a low ball range. That is not efficient recruiting. Up front and full disclosure is the best way to go
I've seen plenty of 'ranges' listed by companies, that start about 20k lower than I am qualified to work for, to 20k higher than I would expect, and usually there's a caveat statement somewhere in there stating that it all depends on what we think your experience warrants... SO, it's not like they're not covering themselves anyway.. so I agree too with the consensus that all employers should post something for compensation.. and I think that recruiter was a bit a tool to be honest for making you uncomfortable about asking.
You should wait for the interviewer(s) to bring up compensation and benefits. However, I would encourage you to have your questions about these topics ready to discuss, and don't be afraid to ask for clarification on things that might be a bit obscure. Often if not enough detail is given, things can get lost in translation. On another note, it might be the type of company that will not tell you the hiring wage until an offer is made for employment. Good luck in your search!
I would say never ask about the wages during the interview. Let them speak and if they mention it great, if not, wait until afterwards when they say they want to send you for background testing and such. Then you can discuss the wages and benefits. They get annoyed because they don't want to feel like that's your only driving force for wanting the job. Although for most it is, but not something you want to ask about during the interview process.