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You negotiate to get the things you want or need in order to feel compensated and positioned for success in your new role. You don't negotiate to get as much as you can. If you can't think of something else to ask for then you got everything you need.
Bonus. Promotion Timing. Stock. PTOs. Relocation.
Vacation days?
Private jet would be nice
If you got the money offer you were expecting and all other conditions are reasonable, then I would just leave it. If you know you have some vacations or time off planned already, you could try to get them not to count it towards your PTO. But things like earlier performance reviews and stuff like that should be considered for sure, especially if you're coming in towards the end/after their reviews (find out when their review cycles are)
Guys, sometimes you can turn off a potential employer by negotiating too hard. Do not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by pushing too hard at the close. If you feel that you got a fair deal and that the role has good long-term career potential, would you be prepared to walk away if they do not agree to that little extra that you are pushing for? If not, don't risk having *them* walk away because you are revealing an unattractive side of yourself that they didn't know existed. Take the long view; this is not transactional, it's a career move. As the saying goes, there is many a slip between cup and lip.
A1 and C1, I respectfully disagree. When I hire, I am very tuned in to clues that the person isn't taking the long view and desiring the role and the company for the right reasons. My view is that it's better to break an engagement than a marriage, and I wouldn't hesitate to walk from a candidate who evidenced that approach and outlook. I have hired many people over the years, and I have made very few hiring errors focusing on soft skills and EQ, while considering technical skills merely a prerequisite. I am grateful when I see signs during the hiring process that reveal aspects of a person's character that wouldn't fit well with my team or my firm, because it can save me months or years of aggravation. Also, when you are negotiating a position (or anything else), you want to pick your battles, and approach it as win win, not as a win lose. It's like a real estate transaction. You can blow a sale by getting emotionally invested in something totally inconsequential like a refrigerator. The person in the other side of the table, if they are sufficiently put off by your approach, may just turn around and crater the deal.
Sure, but don't go crazy. I would negotiate some Extra PTO time if you can. If they say no at least you tried.
^ not true at all. Negotiate until they won't give you anymore. This isn't your friend. This is a firm with endless money as far as you're concerned. Juice it for all its worth.
P2 - before $140. After 10% paycut
Going to use my actual name in salute to my white twin on the thread - spot on Marty.
Companies aren't your friends. They want you for a service at the best price they can get. Your job is to get as much as you can and both parties will fall somewhere in the middle. Get as much as you can. Keep feelings out of it. Don't apologize when you ask either. As long as you don't go batshit insane, the most they'll do is say no or double down on what they've offered.
Omg signing bonus, ask for $20k. Salary is hard to increase and vacation is often set but signing is very discretionary.
A1 - true. However the feelings nowadays is you owe yourself to negotiate. I am actually taking a huge pay cut (because I moved to a different country with lower pay) and that's why I feel that I should negotiate to make me feel a bit better with the pay situation.
OP, what were you making and what's your new offer if you don't mind me asking
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DD1, I'll give you the executive summary. Don't push too hard for things that aren't critical to you, especially towards the end of the negotiation. You risk appearing greedy, alienating the hiring manager, and losing the offer. Take the long view, and pick your battles carefully.