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The hiring manager wants success? This worries you?
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Just felt strange to hear in an interview. I've heard my current leader say "hey, I don't expect you all to work here forever", but that was also after I was hired. I've also dealt with the reverse, where someone acted like I was a traitor for leaving to pursue a new opportunity.
I'm a worrier lol.
I see this as a good sign that she doesn’t want to keep you trapped in a role/team. She wants to help you grow into a career path that works for you as an individual.
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Thanks! I've done some LinkedIn lurking and there are several people who left after less than a year. If it was a 2-3 year cycle that wouldn't bother me. Haha
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Major green flag. My last company was like this and I loved it. I learned and accomplished so much. A toxic place will try to stifle you so you can't go anywhere else
As a former hiring manager, I would usually wait until the first week, but I always asked my directs where they saw themselves and how I could best help them get there (in the company and outside the company).
I’m a big fan of advocating for your staff and helping them to be a proud alumni of your team somewhere else.
I’ve also helped former team members get new jobs within and outside the company many, many times. Watching my direct reports succeed is literally my favorite part of any management job.
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That makes sense and wouldn't cause me to worry. There's a time and a place for everything, and I don't know if a first meeting with a potential candidate is that place.
I would imagine she was trying to frame it as a selling point, and didn't think it would give someone pause. Especially if this is a role in consulting where the majority of people know very early on that it's not a forever career for them.
There are even recruiting videos on consulting firm websites that specifically tout the roles ability to better position their teams for success in careers working for client companies. In my opinion, it's knowing your audience, not signaling a red flag.
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I didn't even see it from that perspective, thank you. We can't always predict human behavior, or how someone will interpret our words. I'm on edge during this job search because of issues with my current employer. I'm normally not this skeptical haha
Could go either way. My husband worked for a company that said this during his interview. Found out later that the management team used this type of reasoning to excuse terrible treatment of their employees, and when literally no one would stay for more than a year because it was so bad the leadership team just brushed it off to prospective candidates by saying something along these lines.
On the other hand, I've personally known leaders who are sincere in wanting to help people grow, even if that growth means they don't end up staying at the company.
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The former is what I fear. The last person in this role was only there 8 months. I've done some poking around on LinkedIn and this person wasn't the only one to stick around for less than a year.
Depends on the position. It’s usually a red flag in my line of profession when someone wants out.
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I wonder if that was their way of indicating that they're trying to leave the firm, too.