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Wear what you like as long as it isn’t flashy. I wear an inherited Rolex daily (never would sell but does have significant monetary value > $25k), but unless someone is into watches, no one notices or cares.
Corporate mid level here (and super into watches as a hobby). I wear my 4k and 6k watches in the office all the time, no one other than watch guys notice. Partners are often wearing watches in the five figures (and one is in the six), so it’s pretty common in my office. I have no kids and don’t intend to have any, so my budget is very different than people who have to support kids and a spouse on one income.
Unless it’s some gaudy monstrosity, you’re fine in the office imo. If someone makes a comment about it, they’re insecure, judgy or both. No one knows anyone else’s financial situation, so it’s stupid to assume.
TL:DR, don’t worry about it.
It's easy to find DJs and OPs, but sport watches are near impossible to find new. Most dealers don't even bother keeping a wait list. Rather, it's total luck.
Basically he is asking if he can where his Virgil Abloh Patek Philippe to court or work. Watches that cost 5k aren't noticeable. Yeah you can wear it
But it’s so classy!!
What does this even mean
Big law, mid market here. We don’t even take “nice” briefcases or bags to court. Anything that could alienate a judge or jury is not worth it. I also am cognizant of pissing off staff, but maybe that’s just me. I’ve heard some pretty tacky stories about things partners have done/said in front of staff and I never want to be that person.
Honestly, I would say $5000 is pretty standard for a watch, and anything under $20,000 is probably work appropriate for associates and could be a graduation gift. No need to hate on them.
A first year showed up to orientation at my firm this year wearing a $50,000 engagement ring. That, on the other hand, was actually something that people commented in a negative way.
This is interesting. There are studies on how wealthy men are perceived positively in the workplace and wealthy women are perceived negatively.
No.
I mean is it covered in diamonds? If not most people won’t notice...you do you.
... mentally calculating how many student loan payments that watch could pay for...
Is it showy? Then no. Is it a pretty discreet watch? Then yes, whatever the cost (there are watches that will set you back $300k and most people wouldn’t know). It’s your money, you spend it how you want - it’s the taste point that’s in issue. Overall, inclined to agree with someone on another thread: if you’re feeling you have to ask then it’s probably a “no”.
Firm yes, not an issue at all. Court? Hell no.
Unless it’s some oversized, blingy monstrosity, I wouldn’t worry about it. People don’t notice nice watches any more. And typically the nicer a watch, the more understated it is.
Wear what makes you happy.
Exactly!
Yes
Is it flashy and obvious? A watch could cost $5k but be low-key and blend in with whatever you’re wearing. I agree it’s best to not wear a watch that would attract a ton of attention, but that could apply to a $100 watch or a $10k watch depending on the look.
No. Never. Ever.
I am not opposed to Rolex, Longines, or Omega. I have a vintage Omega that is A+, but it is mechanical and has a very slim case. I have some other Swiss jobs that are similarly subtle (no diamonds, rotating bezels, bejeweled crowns, etc). Only folks that know, know what they are so, your average Joe isn’t going to be able to tell an IWC from an Apple Watch. As for a Rolex Submariner or anything else one might wear whilst Marlin fishing, nothing says newb like wearing those time pieces with a suit. It just looks silly, IMO.
I had a Court appearance in chambers where the judge was wearing a $10,000 Panerai wristwatch in a very conspicuous manner. And anyone who’s ever been inside a courthouse has seen that attorneys frequently wear Rolexes, IWC’s, and Omegas. I strongly disagree with everyone here. I don’t think there’s a problem wearing it around the office but do so in Court at your own peril, especially if you’re going to be in front of a jury.
I wouldn't be afraid to wear an expensive watch around a judge. Jury though, ick.
Of course, I'm a transactional attorney, so what do I know.
I’m a transactional attorney and typically the poorest guy in the room (by many multiples), so no one gives a rat’s a@@ about how much my watch cost.
I don’t have a $5000 watch so I don’t know 😂
I wear a $10 Casio in my biglaw firm and would absolutely roll my eyes at someone for wearing an ostentatious watch at the office or in court. Then again, I also drive a manual 2002 Honda Accord so maybe I’m the outlier.
Life choices indeed. As the proud parent of a 23 year old and 19 year old (the former graduated and self supporting and the latter in college riding in the first class car of the gravy train) I can attest that kids are VERY expensive. But they are the most important and beloved investments I have and I wouldn’t trade them or the experience of parenting them for anything.
Where you live matters. I’m in a regional capital city in the middle of the country but making biglaw money doing work every bit as interesting and challenging as anything I could or would do in NY. The economics of this market and living modestly are the reasons I went from a negative net worth (mostly student loans) in my 30’s to very comfortable financial independent in my 50’s. I’ve never missed not residing on a coast.