Is ageism against older workers growing and/or evident in your workplace? Are DEI/HR strategies in place to recruit, retain, keep your older colleagues engaged and contributing?

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What age threshold is considered older?


Age 40 is where ADEA protections kick in. I suspect 55+ is where many elder workers begin feeling their age is noticeably beginning to work against them- interpersonally with a fast growing younger workforce, and systemically in regards to hiring/firing/promoting, and a shrinking (age) peer group.


Yes, it's alive and being practiced daily in my work place. Leadership is also turning a blind eye to it.


All except for forced retirement - not sure if that has occurred, but definitely have reprimanded older workers for petty reasons when younger workers commit the same behavior with no reprimand.


From the perspective of “seasoned” individual contributors I would think those folks definitely have a tougher time competing for lateral opportunities. Society seems to think more years of experience should correlate to career advancements and promotions (in most white collar office settings). Is it fair to assume folks doing the same thing (individual contributor) for decades are complacent? At least being a people leader has more dynamicness to it on paper.


I see it mostly with recruiters and hiring managers. (Not at my company) Seems like company hiring practices are becoming more openly discriminatory across the board.

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And then blamed for being a burden of state, right?

I don't know that it is growing. I think there is probably more interest in tracking and documenting it.

So being able to compare accurately seems tricky.

I have a coworker who is older. Tough to say if there is any actual agism, but I have heard on the grape vine that people are worried about the possibility. It is hard to say if it is happening or not because it could be an unconscious bias type of thing, which is obviously invisible and very hard to detect.

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