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Very common practice in public accounting. I have seen people promised promotions, transfers, being moved to new clients, international rotations, etc. by HR and partners just to get them to stay. If you want the transfer, the best bet is to make it happen on your own by networking with the team you want to transfer to and then having them help facilitate it. Your current team doesn’t want to lose you.
I feel like HR & recruiters are just pencil pushers & not the ultimate decision makers. Your direct team would be the ones impacted most by your departure. Let the Partners hash it out & join whoever values you the most either through 💰 or mentorship.
If they burn them first, no harm no foul.
Yes they will tell you anything to stay I’ve seen I️t happen many time
I have never seen HR lie. They may slow walk something but I have never seen them lie. It is often really helpful for you to have a partner involved, who is pushing/pulling for you, in these situations as it is easier for us to make these transfers happen on a faster time table.
P4, was the other manager the same cohort level and the same group? If so, that situation kind of make sense with the exception that 10k is way too low to account for the COL of NYC. In my example, the manager was in the same group, a lower COL city, 3 year less experience, and made only $9k less than me. So that means he was either making more for his office, or that I was underpaid for mine.
It’s not burning bridges if you leave because they lied and you thought you would get something that you’re not getting.
Agreed! Not sure what OP means by burning bridges but honestly, if you’re not getting what you want and you end up leaving for an opportunity that came up during busy season, I don’t even think that’s burning bridges because you need to put your career first.
They lie for sure! There are guidelines for things they can and can’t say. I’m interested if there are any people from HR on Fishbowl. I’m interested to hear what they have to say.
Depends on your definition of lie. I’ve seen transfer requests that seemed like a done deal fall through before plenty of times. I’ve never seen one where I thought HR was lying. That’s why it’s best if they’re telling you it’s official to get it in writing. Until you have that nothing is official.
I once had a transfer that was so close to official my schedule had been cleared and my replacements already introduced to the client. Then it fell through. Even in that situation I don’t think HR ever lied, it just fell through.
How does it just fall through? Did the the other office all of a sudden just not have a need?
Burning bridges is never a good idea. All down side, zero upside. It never hurts to leave respectfully.
BDO 1 is right - you burn the bridge to “get them” but it won’t get them much at all. It only has the potential the harm you down the road. I left Deloitte and had some petty expense situation that they handled very harshly. I was tempted to burn a bridge out of principle but I didn’t. When I left I said “I’m never going back so it doesn’t matter”. Fast forward a while and I’m having conversations with them about a very unique role in a different part of the business. I’m only having that conversation because I left on very good terms and had a quick route back to upper management when I was ready to. I was right that I wasn’t going back to my old job, but remember that you work for one of the largest professional services firms in the entire world.
What did HR tell you to keep you to stay? I haven’t had any issues transferring to different offices
They will tell you anything to make you stay. Once they no longer need you, you get replaced on your engagements quickly and become the guy nobody wants on their job.
HR does not make transfer or promo determinations - it's the PPDs or the leads on your team. Most cases HR just oversees/pushes along the process then is just the messenger.
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Very common. I think it’s a symptom of being short sighted in their part
Yeah try and get that in writing and see what they say haha.