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We’ve had three credible gun threats this year. I do worry about it and I am very stressed. This job is quickly becoming traumatic.
We had a kid make it all the way to school with the gun in their backpack.
It is taking my love of teaching away, having to worry about my safety. It erodes our morale and it is not okay having to live in fear.
We just got one metal detector and the students have figured out how to let one another in through the exit in the gym. Second day having it and the kids already have work arounds.
I’m sick and tired of not getting to teach because I’m CONSTANTLY having to emotionally regulate 30 teenagers at a time. I’m tired of working at a job that doesn’t think of my safety, or that of the kids, as an actionable priority.
One metal detector isn’t enough. Telling teachers to use restorative practices and build relationships isn’t enough. It’s not always just people INSIDE our schools targeting us, although that does happen a lot. What are they doing to actually keep us safe?
I don’t want to die here. I am tired of being scared too. I totally get it.
The cultural rot in my opinion is the easy access of guns. We are talking about mass shooters. There are a whole of victims in a mass shooting. Not just those who were shot.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/03/health-care-providers-unrecognized-victims-mass-killings/
What is the gun-focused solution, then? What new law do we need?
Highest year on record was 2021 with 327 school shooting resulting in 350 deaths or injuries. There are 49.4 million public school students. There is a 0.00071 percent chance that you will killed or injured in a school shooting this year. Odds of dieing in a car crash over your lifetime are .9 percent. Not saying it isn't a concern or scary but statistically you are not really in that much danger.
We can multitask.
School shootings don't worry me, specifically. The greater cultural trends that make people, especially kids, turn to violence are much more concerning. We have a media and political system that feeds on disunity and contempt. We've become narcissistic and entitled. We sow the seeds of despair and envy at every turn. That can only lead one place, and it's not anywhere good.
To make matters worse, we've got people in positions of authority who refuse to take appropriate action and notify parents when credible threats are made. The situation in Chippewa Falls, WI is just the latest example, where MULTIPLE potential shooter manifestos were discovered with dates, times, and tactical plans, and parents had no idea until months later.
We're reaching a tipping point in this country if we haven't already. We're a cultural mess right now, and it seems school districts are more interested in covering their butts than protecting kids. The messaging to our kids needs to change, and the people at the top need to be held accountable when they fail to do the right thing.
You're absolutely right that one political side justifies violence at every turn. They openly call for harassment and intimidation of the opposition. They say that words are violence and silence is violence. They want people to believe all their problems are being caused by one particular democratic. They call parents "extremists" when they voice their frustrations at school board meetings. They're always talking about revolution.
Unfortunately, and this is where I disagree, we want focus solely on guns while this culture fire is burning at the core. The thwarted would-be shooters in Chippewa Falls had plans to build IEDs, and had a specific hit list with names and "types" to be targeted. All the while, the board and administration actively covered up the likely imminent threat, nor did they notify the families of targeted students that the intial would-be shooter was allowed to return to school. The failure of authority in these situations is unacceptable, and coupled with the cultural rot in this country, a lot of kids are unnecessarily being put in harm's way.
Especially when elementary students can make shooting comments and get a smack on the hand and sent back to class!
There should be a threat assessment done if that happens. It sends a strong message to both the student and parents.
We're all a bit wrapped tight since Uvalde. Statistically a school shooting is not very likely, but the level of devastation sets it apart. Not to mention how deeply violating it is to our sense of what is right: our kids, being shot, in a place that it supposed to be the next safest place for them besides home with us.
There's not going to be any one easy answer. All of the answers are simple ones but require a lot of work and time.
And we're all afraid, especially with things getting frisky again.
The only immediate answer I have is to acknowledge the fear, pull together, and take care of our kids the best way we can. We're educators. We got this. And them and us.
Every day I watch hands and how students are walking and their faces. I actually bought a Tuffy pack which is la bullet proof liner for my bag I carry. It will stop many calibers of bullets. I'd rather have a chance of survival
Good idea
Voting helps.
The solution to school shootings is not legislative, just as the solution to our drug epidemic, drunk driving issues, and white-collar crime problems are not legislative. More laws or new laws aren't the solution. Enforcement of current laws is the solution.
Unfortunately, there is not one single answer that will cure this phenomenon. We can talk about the ease of children getting guns or mental health; but for school shootings to end, we’re going to have to pull together… teachers, admin, parents, and students for progress to be made. There is no one solution fits all for anyone…not anymore.
Your question was how do we deal with the fear we may have that we could be a victim of these senseless shootings. You’re also correct in your premise that we should be able to go to school, teach, and come home safely. Again, unfortunately, I’m not sure there is a one answer fits all solution. I only share what my strategy is that helps me. I am a person of faith. I pray to God that he helps me, our parents, and mostly our students to have the presence of mind to think about what they are doing before they do it. He hears us. That’s what I can do for myself internally. Externally, before I retired, I worked on our bullying program. I looked at it from a different angle…while those who are bullied should be totally supported and safe, we have to start identifying and working with those who bully. My thought is if we can work with potential bullies at a young age and reprogram why/how they bully, we can nip these behaviors before they bully others, thus stopping any child from feeling they have no control but to fight back with a gun. Children who feel they have no control to stop harassment of themselves are the kids who finally take control with violence. My district began to look at this before I left and were making some progress with peer relationships. It’s not going to be corrected easily, but nothing worth doing is easy. By being involved and innovative helped me feel like I was doing something to fight for my safety and those of others. Maybe getting involved in some way may make you feel safer as well.
God help teachers and their students.
Michigan, I’m not sure why you found my response funny. Care to elaborate?
It’s a problem that’s much bigger than any one district.
I don't worry about it. I've trained for the contingency, and I've trained our staff for the possibility that it could happen. I've worked with my principal to implement significant safety measures at our school.
I've also read enough on the subject to know that the likelihood of it happening at my school, while not zero, is very low. The fear of a school shooting derives from the media telling you that it is happening everywhere every day and your turn is coming. That kind of fear-mongering is good for clicks on CNN and MSNBC, but it's not representative of reality. Read "The Science of Fear" by Daniel Gardner. You'll see how people are constantly manipulated by those who have a vested financial interest in your fear.
One of the best ways to not be worried is to be prepared and trained. Knowledge is power.
Keep that same energy if a teacher ever tells you to stay off our message boards, MES.
But I’m sure your play a victim if we ever said, “you aren’t a teacher, you can’t have an opinion on this subject”
However, most people don’t have to pull credentials to try and win an argument. They let their words do that. Those who use a flimsy piece of paper they bought to “prove” they are right do so because they have nothing else to use.
And no one cares what your credentials are, regardless of topic.
Do you worry about driving, flying, eating, and walking? Because they all carry greater risk than being killed in school. What you can do is have a plan.
I don’t live in fear but many many kids and young adults do. And of course teachers and parents. Some people have been through 2 mass shootings in their young lifetime.
I am prepared to meet my Maker, as any day could be my last one.
MES 1
Lots of guns have always been around but that didn’t equal violence just the opposite. I was reminded as I walked out of my neighbors house and noticed a shot gun behind the front door on the way out (this week). That’s a typical thing in my area, even though I live in an expensive area, with low crime.
I have a student from the north eastern US who told me this week during hunting season students have one or more guns in their vehicles (visible). I asked if they had school violence problems, he laughed and said no.
Gun racks were visible in trucks when I was in school (with guns) no violence and that’s not as long ago as you probably think.
The rot of the family has caused violence and unimaginable problems.
The pipeline of drugs is destroying families and communities. Chinese chemicals often assembled in Mexico and sent to the use. This has much to do with the devastation in minority neighborhoods on every facet.
I try not to think about it at school and because I’m so busy, I feel distracted most days. I do think of it often when I’m at home. I’m retiring in June and will be glad to get out of education (for so many reasons). I’m not sure how one copes with it. It’s real and it happens more than it should, imo. It’s crazy!
The entire nation can be unnerving in today’s political climate!
And that seems to unnerve some! 😂
It's not just shootings. Neighboring school districts, a 15 year old beat another 15 year oldest head into the concrete so severely the child is in a coma, and then a 14 year old was stabbed and killed. Both this week. What the fuck are parents doing!
https://www.chds.us/sssc/charts-graphs/
I can't vouch for the quality of the data, but this provides an excellent visual of the statistics for violent deaths in schools.
My takeaway from this is that there has been a significant increase in school violence in the last few years, but it is still an extremely small number in absolute terms.
I agree that something is wrong and something needs to be done, but is it really increasing or is thr coverage increasing?
Statistically speaking, you're more likely to get hit by a car. Does that make you want to stop crossing the street?
You're more likely to get killed by someone drive high or under the influence. My friend was killed about 2 years ago by a woman high on pot.