Thinking about leaving Big 4 for smaller tier for better work life balance. Anyone with experience at Baker Tilly or CLA tax manager/director in the Bay Area?

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Be very careful with this, the whole “smaller firms work less hours” spiel is often a lie. I was at FORVIS and they worked wayyyyy more than the big 4. My total hours as a staff were close to 3,000.

I’m at CLA now and have great WLB and my hours worked are pretty reasonable, but it’s still PA. I wish I could say you’ll definitely work less hours at CLA but all of our offices are fairly different and some are still run by old school principals.

Just be careful and really vet wherever you interview.

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Definitely team dependent anywhere and everywhere.

I left briefly to go to a regional firm because they claimed to have a better work life balance. It’s still public accounting, the hours weren’t materially different. And the stress was actually worse because I had to deal with more, smaller clients.

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Tagging on to second this. Worked just as much but had less support and more clients.

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Fewer hours than most big 4s, but they still have seasons and it’s still client services.

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I don't see Baker Tilly, CLA, BDO, GT or Moss Adams working fewer hours than the Big 4.

I did a stint at Andersen Tax and the hours were worse because their deployment folks weren't very good at their jobs.

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