This question might anger some, but not meant to be provoking. Does anyone else feel that half the jobs in tech (scrum master, project manager, product manager, etc.) are more hindering than helpful? I feel like productivity would sky rocket if we didn’t have 10+ hours a week added of admin work/agile ceremonies/status meetings, and you just let developers and analysts do their job. Why are we spending hours learning how to estimate story points (for example) rather than improving production?

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Something is wrong if you’re spending 10+ hours doing agile ceremonies. We have 15-20 min stand up M-Th, two hours of refinement each week, and then either 30-60 mins of sprint demo or release/deploy every other week - which is a total of 4 hours a week. One retro a month. I have my Tech Lead, QA Lead, and Scrum Master as the only ones in planning - IC devs, QA, and BAs don’t attend unless they request to.

People have other meetings to troubleshoot or gather requirements as part of their role that they set up themselves, but our agile ceremonies are as lean as possible. A truly good product or admin coworker is one who is getting shit done and preventing anything from coming the team’s way so they can spend most of their day focusing on the sprint work.

Ime, there’s a lot of assumptions that everyone on a team needs to be involved in every stage and that’s not really true.

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I couldn’t agree more!
I had this same argument and this was exactly the same thing I said during that argument.

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